Question From An Idiot

07-01-2007, 3:51 PM

I have been reading some of the other questions on here and it seems you
guys (and gals) are way ahead of me. Nonetheless I'll suffer sounding like
an idiot in order to fix this problem.

I have a website that has some .php pages on it. This excellent computer
guy created the php pages for me but then he began to miss home and flew
back to Europe. Anyway I'm left with a website to manage. I have always
used Frontpage. I'm learning from the html world that Frontpage is
inferior.

When Yavi was here he had me purchase a program called Macromedia
Dreamweaver UltraDeveloper. It is residing on my computer now. But I
mainly use Frontpage. I use Frontpage to update our website and etc. . . .

HOWEVER, I noted two weeks ago that the .php pages (3 of them) on my website
are not updated with the new links that are on all the html pages. I would
like to fix this but I do not know how.

So I have been reading a few php pages on the web but I do not know what
the hell I am doing.

I downloaded this program called HTML-Kit that was supposed to help me see
the php pages so that I could edit them. I can't see the php pages.
However, I can see them in HTML code. But when I go and copy the HTML code
for the "navigation bars that are updated on my html pages" and paste that
code into the php page and then go to my FTP program and upload the php page
(yes, after I saved it (made a backup copy of php page)), the php page is
the same as it was before I modified it.

I am tired and exasperated and I slept on my office floor last night and
cried myself to sleep (okay well I didn't cry but wanted to).

Can anyone tell me what is the best program to use that will allow me to
both see the php page as it will be displayed on the web and a program that
will allow me to edit the page and give it the same navigation bar as my
html pages in Frontpage?

Thanks to anyone who can help me. I'll keep checking back at this
newsgroup. Thank God for newsgroups!

07-01-2007, 3:51 PM

Well, if Mr. Excellent Computer Guy did a good job he inserted the PHP code
inside the HTML code. In this case you can view your pages in Dreamweaver.
Dreamweaver cannot display what happens on the server with the PHP, but it
displays everything else, and where PHP code is inside it displays a small
icon with the word PHP on it. You can easily edit all non-PHP parts of the
page.

If he did a bad job he made PHP generate the HTML code. If you find lines
that look like

echo "<html>";

or

print("<td style=\"mystyle\">Somecontent</td>");

you are lost, you can either learn how to write HTML and PHP code or hire
some specialist to do every simple bit of the job for you. Maybe in that
case, on the long term it would be the cheapest way to learn Dreamweaver and
have somebody rewrite the scripts in an editor-friendly way for you.

--
Markus

07-01-2007, 3:52 PM

In summary, Dreamweaver will allow you to see the code + html rendering
of your site. To view your sites using php, either use Dreamweaver to
automatically upload the code to the server (and then use a browser to
view it) or a better solution is to create a server on your developing
machine (localhost) to perform all testing before you deploy it. You
only need to mainly install apache and php if you haven't already done
so.

In article <3IQTa.327$8%4.12366@news20.bellglobal.com>, Newsgroupie 9
<bbbsco@bellnet.ca> wrote:

> I have been reading some of the other questions on here and it seems you
> guys (and gals) are way ahead of me. Nonetheless I'll suffer sounding like
> an idiot in order to fix this problem.
>
> I have a website that has some .php pages on it. This excellent computer
> guy created the php pages for me but then he began to miss home and flew
> back to Europe. Anyway I'm left with a website to manage. I have always
> used Frontpage. I'm learning from the html world that Frontpage is
> inferior.
>
> When Yavi was here he had me purchase a program called Macromedia
> Dreamweaver UltraDeveloper. It is residing on my computer now. But I
> mainly use Frontpage. I use Frontpage to update our website and etc. . . .
>
> HOWEVER, I noted two weeks ago that the .php pages (3 of them) on my website
> are not updated with the new links that are on all the html pages. I would
> like to fix this but I do not know how.
>
> So I have been reading a few php pages on the web but I do not know what
> the hell I am doing.
>
> I downloaded this program called HTML-Kit that was supposed to help me see
> the php pages so that I could edit them. I can't see the php pages.
> However, I can see them in HTML code. But when I go and copy the HTML code
> for the "navigation bars that are updated on my html pages" and paste that
> code into the php page and then go to my FTP program and upload the php page
> (yes, after I saved it (made a backup copy of php page)), the php page is
> the same as it was before I modified it.
>
> I am tired and exasperated and I slept on my office floor last night and
> cried myself to sleep (okay well I didn't cry but wanted to).
>
> Can anyone tell me what is the best program to use that will allow me to
> both see the php page as it will be displayed on the web and a program that
> will allow me to edit the page and give it the same navigation bar as my
> html pages in Frontpage?
>
> Thanks to anyone who can help me. I'll keep checking back at this
> newsgroup. Thank God for newsgroups!
>
>

07-01-2007, 3:52 PM

Could you provide me with a private contact address? I tried to reply but I
got a bounce.

Thanks,
Anthony

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