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Old 07-01-2007, 3:50 PM   #1
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Hello Everyone,

I just purchased a new server and am thinking about putting it at a
datacentre and offering hosting on it. While I'm sure I'm not going to do
the "Hosting as low a $1!" thing I want to know what everyone thinks about
this offering/price scheme:

- 150 MB Space
- 2 GB Bandwidth
- PHP, Perl, ASP, and ColdFusion MX Scripting
- Unliminted MySQL or PostgreSQL databases
- Unlimited POP3 accounts
- Unlimited email aliases
- Unlimited mailing lists
- We run our own SMTP server (PostFix)
- Full access to cron jobs (within reason)
- 24/7 Tech Support (Phone and Email)
- Domain name hosting
- OC3 Connection to the Internet
- Full redundancy
- Network Virus Filtering

For this I am thinking about charging $8.95 per month. What does everyone
think? Any suggestions?

Thanks!
Anthony


 
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Old 07-01-2007, 3:50 PM   #2
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Anthony Saffer wrote:


> - Unlimited email aliases


IMHO, email aliases cause problems rather than solving them. People
think they have different email addresses but have just one in fact,
since all the emails come to the same inbox. I suggest offering an
unlimited number of real email addresses (each having a separate inbox),
with limited space (20MB) for each address.

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> > - Unlimited email aliases
>
> IMHO, email aliases cause problems rather than solving them. People
> think they have different email addresses but have just one in fact,
> since all the emails come to the same inbox. I suggest offering an
> unlimited number of real email addresses (each having a separate inbox),
> with limited space (20MB) for each address.


Good point. Should I even bother to offer email aliases for those who know
what they are and who want to use them? Maybe make it a "by request only"
type thing. Or are they not even worth that?

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Anthony Saffer wrote:

>>>- Unlimited email aliases

>>
>>IMHO, email aliases cause problems rather than solving them. People
>>think they have different email addresses but have just one in fact,
>>since all the emails come to the same inbox. I suggest offering an
>>unlimited number of real email addresses (each having a separate inbox),
>>with limited space (20MB) for each address.

>
>
> Good point. Should I even bother to offer email aliases for those who know
> what they are and who want to use them? Maybe make it a "by request only"
> type thing. Or are they not even worth that?
>


IMHO, aliases can be useful if they can easily be deleted and
transformed into real addresses. The only situation I would use an alias
is this one:
let's say I'm the president of an association, and I'm also the
responsible for the website of the association, but would like someone
else to become the webmaster later. In this case, I would create an
address "president@myassoc.com" and an alias "webmaster@myassoc.com"
pointing to "president@myassoc.com", in order to get all the emails at
once in a single inbox. Later, when a new webmaster is found, I would
delete the alias "webmaster@myassoc.com", and create a new real address
"webmaster@myassoc.com", that the new webmaster would use.

So yes, I would only mention that aliases are possible, but activate and
deactivate them on demand, in order not to confuse the users.

JB.

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In article <3f1e592e$0$27906$626a54ce@news.free.fr>, Jean-Baptiste
Nizet <jbnizet@objetdirect.com> wrote:

> Anthony Saffer wrote:
>
>
> > - Unlimited email aliases

>
> IMHO, email aliases cause problems rather than solving them. People
> think they have different email addresses but have just one in fact,
> since all the emails come to the same inbox. I suggest offering an
> unlimited number of real email addresses (each having a separate inbox),
> with limited space (20MB) for each address.


Although people like myself enjoy having aliases. I use them to track
spams and who sells my info where.
 
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> Although people like myself enjoy having aliases. I use them to track
> spams and who sells my info where.


I like the way my ISP handles that: I have a limited amount of pop accounts
I can configure. One is defined as the main account; every mail that comes
in with an address that does not correspond with a configured account goes
into that main account. Which gives me an unlimited number of possible
addresses to do whatever I want to without any configuring.

That means I can use addresses as info@mydomain.com, webmaster@mydomain.com
and so on; because there are no pop accounts for them the mails go into the
main account. If in some years I should decide to hire a webmaster, I just
configure a pop account for webmaster@mydomain.com.

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Jean-Baptiste Nizet wrote:

> let's say I'm the president of an association, and I'm also the
> responsible for the website of the association, but would like someone
> else to become the webmaster later. In this case, I would create an
> address "president@myassoc.com" and an alias "webmaster@myassoc.com"
> pointing to "president@myassoc.com", in order to get all the emails at
> once in a single inbox. Later, when a new webmaster is found, I would
> delete the alias "webmaster@myassoc.com", and create a new real address
> "webmaster@myassoc.com", that the new webmaster would use.


Good idea, but remember that you might not always be the president.

So I usually give each user his or her own personal account,
"fredsmith@myassoc.com", "maryjones@myassoc.com", etc.

Then I set up aliases "president@myassoc.com", "treasurer@myassoc.com"
and so on, and point the aliases to the real account.

Mike Ciaraldi
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WPI Computer Science

 
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"Markus Ernst" <derernst@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> ah that is you, one question I always had, why do domains have have
>> been active in mydomain's DNS suddenly get marked as "not in DNS"
>> althaugh they clearly are still working? Worrying!

>
> No this is a misunderstanding. I have nothing to do with mydomain.com (the
> person who first registered that domain was a genious...). I use this as a
> placeholder for any domain, as if you talk about accessing a form field by
> document.myform.myelement.value...
>
> Sorry to have confused you, but I have absolutely no idea about DNS issues.


http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2606.txt


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dont like the idea of coldfusion and asp

they involve license fees


"Anthony Saffer" <anthony@nospam.safferconsulting.com> wrote in message
news:3f1e51f9_1@nntp2.nac.net...
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I just purchased a new server and am thinking about putting it at a
> datacentre and offering hosting on it. While I'm sure I'm not going to do
> the "Hosting as low a $1!" thing I want to know what everyone thinks about
> this offering/price scheme:
>
> - 150 MB Space
> - 2 GB Bandwidth
> - PHP, Perl, ASP, and ColdFusion MX Scripting
> - Unliminted MySQL or PostgreSQL databases
> - Unlimited POP3 accounts
> - Unlimited email aliases
> - Unlimited mailing lists
> - We run our own SMTP server (PostFix)
> - Full access to cron jobs (within reason)
> - 24/7 Tech Support (Phone and Email)
> - Domain name hosting
> - OC3 Connection to the Internet
> - Full redundancy
> - Network Virus Filtering
>
> For this I am thinking about charging $8.95 per month. What does everyone
> think? Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
> Anthony
>
>



 
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