Look for a web designer

I'm working on an OpenSource project, and I'm looking for a web designer to
write and administer the web site associated with the project. The project
is a free (no money involved) project, and there's no money involved, but it
will be a great experience if anybody is interested in being the web master
of the project.



The project is a RPG (Role Playing Game) that has a religious theme to it.
The user must search out a bible for an alternate earth. In the big bang
created by the Unknown; it created gods. A war breaks out with the gods, and
the Unknown sends an Angel to give the god of Truth. But the God of Lies
steals the bible, and breaks the bible apart and hides it in Earth. The
title of the game is called Children of the Sun.



Children of the Sun is a text-centric game, based on AD&D. It will contain
graphics but the main feature of the game is text.



The site hosting the project, SourceForge, has a lot of features for web
hosting. Such as CGI, PHP. The web server runs Linux (DOS on steroids), and
you will need to learn or know Linux commands. Also, the web server doesn't
use FTP; but SSH (Secure Shell) to transfer the web site.



Also, I would prefer custom graphics for the site..



The project that Children of the Sun superseded is called Children of Fire.
It's the same project; but was for Linux. The site, written by me, is at
http://childoffire.sourceforge.net .



SourceForge is used to host OpenSource projects.. It's the biggest site that
I know of Open Source projects.. You will need to register an account there.
But before you do that, e-mail me at rpg_man@users.sourceforge.net if your
interested..



- Edward Principe

hi all! need help...
this is my target:
make an administration website (so mainly insert/update/delete record from
db, few logic)

my requirement:
- separate logic from presentation
- easly add/del functionality (modularity)
- mysql db
- php 4.2.2 (perhaps 4.3) (because of redhat 9)
there isn't any performance or portability reqs.

I'm a newbie for php, I need to decide library and the structure for this
website.

Can anyway correct (and, eventually, integrate) my thoughts?

**separate logic from pres:
- using template

1) which one?
smarty --> good: is compiled and very completed
no good: is a bit complicated (like a new language)
phpLib?
templateTimer?

2) QUESTION using template:
how about this scenario:
Inside a form I have two combo:
the user choice of the first one determine the values shown into the second
one
OR
the user check of a checkbox determine the presence or not of some input
fields
SO
how about html defined dinamically during the user interaction?
how can I define a template for it?
(now I have something like... if($user_choice=="first") then
print("<INPUT.....>")! !#$%!

** easly add/del functionality (modularity)
with xml, of course..
1) how about using xml with php 4.2.2? it sounds to be a bit dangerouse...

**db
- no db portability is required but... pearDB or ADOdb?

thanks for you help!

laura

Hi Laura,

Well I will try and help you out. You are definitely on the right
track wanting to seperate the logic from the content. It will make
you application go a lot more smoothly.

> "laura" <biru43@yahoo.it> wrote in message news:<be43ve$11bk$1@newsreader1.mclink.it>...
> hi all! need help...
> this is my target:
> make an administration website (so mainly insert/update/delete record from
> db, few logic)
>
> my requirement:
> - separate logic from presentation
> - easly add/del functionality (modularity)
> - mysql db
> - php 4.2.2 (perhaps 4.3) (because of redhat 9)
> there isn't any performance or portability reqs.
>
> I'm a newbie for php, I need to decide library and the structure for this
> website.
>
> Can anyway correct (and, eventually, integrate) my thoughts?
>
> **separate logic from pres:
> - using template
>
> 1) which one?
> smarty --> good: is compiled and very completed
> no good: is a bit complicated (like a new language)
> phpLib?
> templateTimer?

Smarty is the one. Its really not that hard to learn since it really
just puts a tag wrapper around common PHP functions. Its easy to
package up with your applications and it compiles the templates and
caches them which is good too. Use it.

>
> 2) QUESTION using template:
> how about this scenario:
> Inside a form I have two combo:
> the user choice of the first one determine the values shown into the second
> one
> OR
> the user check of a checkbox determine the presence or not of some input
> fields
> SO
> how about html defined dinamically during the user interaction?
> how can I define a template for it?
> (now I have something like... if($user_choice=="first") then
> print("<INPUT.....>")! !#$%!

Some options here and I will do my best to outline them below:

1) use javascript which opens up all of the browser dependecy worms.
I try to limit my use of javascript to activating entries in a form
and that is it. The browser headaches aren't worth the rest of the
supposed benefit. if you really must use javascript, use CSS Layers
(with some reliable javascript DOM actions) to hide and unhide parts
of the interface based on the selection. Here is a good article on
this trick

http://developer.apple.com/internet/...how_layer.html

2) Just seperate the single form into multiple pages with 1 form per
page with standard http requests to guide the user through the
process.

The last option isn't as flashy, but sure is a heck of a lot easier to
implement.


>
> ** easly add/del functionality (modularity)
> with xml, of course..
> 1) how about using xml with php 4.2.2? it sounds to be a bit dangerouse...

In what context are you considering using xml? What does it have to
do with adding and deleting functionality? Are you talking about
configuring the application based on user roles and priviledges?

>
> **db
> - no db portability is required but... pearDB or ADOdb?
>

If no portability is required consider using the built in functions
for the your database. They are the fastest but at least build some
kind of Data Access Object layer around them so that if you ever do
need to change DBs, then you only have to rebuild your DAOs and the
application will be un-modified.

Wes Bailey
wesley_bailey@agile-project.com

"Edward Principe" <principi@cannet.com> wrote in message
news:be36eg$26f$1@plonk.apk.net...
> I'm working on an OpenSource project, and I'm looking for a web designer
to
> write and administer the web site associated with the project. The project
> is a free (no money involved) project, and there's no money involved, but
it
> will be a great experience if anybody is interested in being the web
master
> of the project.
>
Here's a freebie for you

<html>
<head><title>Children of the Sun</title></head>
<body background="1337F0" text="FFFF00">
<center><h1><b>Children of The Sun</b></h1>
<br>This is a text based RPG created by Edward Principe <br><br><i><font
color="1337F0"
(actualy, it wasn't. Why take on a project when you don't know how to code
in the first place? If any of us wanted a project leader, we would expect
the project leader to be paying us. Now if you'll excuse me, I must return
to coding my own RPG. Thanks for the ideas though!)</i></font><br>
Happy Role Playing!
</body>
</html>

>
>
> The project is a RPG (Role Playing Game) that has a religious theme to it.
> The user must search out a bible for an alternate earth. In the big bang
> created by the Unknown; it created gods. A war breaks out with the gods,
and
> the Unknown sends an Angel to give the god of Truth. But the God of Lies
> steals the bible, and breaks the bible apart and hides it in Earth. The
> title of the game is called Children of the Sun.
>
>
>
> Children of the Sun is a text-centric game, based on AD&D. It will contain
> graphics but the main feature of the game is text.
>
>
>
> The site hosting the project, SourceForge, has a lot of features for web
> hosting. Such as CGI, PHP. The web server runs Linux (DOS on steroids),
and
> you will need to learn or know Linux commands. Also, the web server
doesn't
> use FTP; but SSH (Secure Shell) to transfer the web site.
>
>
>
> Also, I would prefer custom graphics for the site..
>
>
>
> The project that Children of the Sun superseded is called Children of
Fire.
> It's the same project; but was for Linux. The site, written by me, is at
> http://childoffire.sourceforge.net .
>
>
>
> SourceForge is used to host OpenSource projects.. It's the biggest site
that
> I know of Open Source projects.. You will need to register an account
there.
> But before you do that, e-mail me at rpg_man@users.sourceforge.net if your
> interested..
>
>
>
> - Edward Principe
>
>