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Old 07-01-2007, 12:25 PM   #1
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A few weeks ago Yucca provided &#8226 as a "dot" in a reply.
I thought this must be a valid way of presenting a dot between items so I used
it, instead of the (ASCII) dot I have been using--which does not validate. I
just discovered that &#8226 doesn't validate either.

Can someone suggest what to use as a similar dot which will validate?
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Old 07-01-2007, 12:25 PM   #2
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In post <bdae5c$q12$2@terabinaries.xmission.com>
bole2cant said...

> A few weeks ago Yucca provided &#8226 as a "dot" in a reply.


its a blank small circle
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/sgml/en....html#h-24.2.1

> I thought this must be a valid way of presenting a dot between items


it is

> so I used it, instead of the (ASCII) dot I have been using--which does not validate.
> I just discovered that &#8226 doesn't validate either.


it is valid but you haven't supplied a URI to show how you're using it
and both times you mentioned it you've not used the ';' at the end.

• or &bull; is the same.




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Old 07-01-2007, 12:25 PM   #3
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"bole2cant" <sherwin@xxxmission.com> wrote:

> A few weeks ago Yucca provided &#8226 as a "dot" in a reply.


I guess you're referring to <http://groups.google.com/groups?
selm=Xns9360C9077129jkorpelacstutfi%40193.229.0.31 > where I wrote:
"Regarding support, my IE 6 on Windows displays both • (the
undefined reference) and • (the correct character reference) and
&bull; (the equivalent entity reference) as thich vertical bars when
they appear in <option> elements, as on the page in question. The
browser shows all of them as bullets when in normal text."

I don't think I ever called it a dot. It's the bullet character.

> I thought this must be a valid way of presenting a dot between
> items so I used it, instead of the (ASCII) dot I have been
> using--which does not validate.


There is no dot in ASCII.

> I just discovered that &#8226 doesn't validate either.


Pardon? Which document doesn't validate under which DTD?

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"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> wrote in message
news:Xns93A525CB5206jkorpelacstutfi@193.229.0.31.. .
> "bole2cant" <sherwin@xxxmission.com> wrote:
>
> > I thought this must be a valid way of presenting a dot between
> > items so I used it, instead of the (ASCII) dot I have been
> > using--which does not validate.

>
> There is no dot in ASCII.
>
> > I just discovered that &#8226 doesn't validate either.

>
> Pardon? Which document doesn't validate under which DTD?


Not until this group is kinder and gentler! Hey, I didn't use
"Strict"! --because there is no way to center a table with the contents
centered.
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====================

<quote>
Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML parser.

Line 133, column 47: non SGML character number 149 (explain...).
Re-written using validated CSS and HTML 4.01. • Updated 06/24/03.</p>
</quote> ^

The • is the character in front of Updated.

===
>There is no dot in ASCII. ... <alt>+249

My intent was not to argue semantics. (I put the ASCII in ()). I just want to
know what IS valid.

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In article <bdai5s$r1h$1@terabinaries.xmission.com>,
sherwin@xxxmission.com says...
....
> > > I thought this must be a valid way of presenting a dot between
> > > items so I used it, instead of the (ASCII) dot I have been

....
> > > I just discovered that &#8226 doesn't validate either.

....
> Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML parser.
>
> Line 133, column 47: non SGML character number 149 (explain...).
> Re-written using validated CSS and HTML 4.01. • Updated 06/24/03.</p>

....
You should have something like:

<p>Some stuff • Updated</p>

Do you? Or are you using the alt key to put the char in?
 
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"Jacqui or (maybe) Pete" wrote:
> You should have something like:
> <p>Some stuff • Updated</p>
> Do you? Or are you using the alt key to put the char in?

=====================

I think I have identified the problem.

Yes, I *am* typing • in my text editor (AceHTML4)--not using the alt
key-- as you advise above. It seems the problem is *Ace* is CONVERTING the
• to a single character. When I view source on the web there is just a
"dot". When I re-open the file in Ace there is just a "dot".

I don't know if this is a bug in Ace or a setting I need to alter. I assume
Notepad would not do this conversion so that may be how I have to save the it
properly.
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