Looking for place on Internet to search for Marketing Manager

We are planning to start a new business in the next few months,
thus we will be looking for someone to fill this role. We have
already received one funding offer and are expecting to receive
more, thus we are guardedly optimistic about getting this going
"for real".

Any recommendations about *free* web sites that will allow us to
start looking now (before we have the start-up cash to spend)?

I tried elance.com, thinking this could be done via contract as a
test to find someone--and they never contacted me after I
submitted the proposal (which is what they said they would do).

The business will be located in Las Vegas, NV (ok, quit drooling
<g>!!). We will make and sell a physical product, and the nature
of our marketing and sales is B2B, not B2C (this is not a
consumer item). Thus, the position may not require
relocation--remote work is possible (for the right person).

Regards, Jerry

There are a number of job posting sites. Best bet is to run a
search on an engine (yahoo.com, google.com etc).

You can also try sites such as monster.com and hotjobs.com.


"Gerald Abrahamson" <jerryab@visi.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> We are planning to start a new business in the next few months,
> thus we will be looking for someone to fill this role. We have
> already received one funding offer and are expecting to receive
> more, thus we are guardedly optimistic about getting this going
> "for real".
>
> Any recommendations about *free* web sites that will allow us to
> start looking now (before we have the start-up cash to spend)?
>
> I tried elance.com, thinking this could be done via contract as a
> test to find someone--and they never contacted me after I
> submitted the proposal (which is what they said they would do).
>
> The business will be located in Las Vegas, NV (ok, quit drooling
> <g>!!). We will make and sell a physical product, and the nature
> of our marketing and sales is B2B, not B2C (this is not a
> consumer item). Thus, the position may not require
> relocation--remote work is possible (for the right person).
>
> Regards, Jerry
>

"Gerald Abrahamson" <jerryab@visi.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> The business will be located in Las Vegas, NV (ok, quit drooling
> <g>!!).

Believe me, I'm not.

> We will make and sell a physical product, and the nature
> of our marketing and sales is B2B, not B2C (this is not a
> consumer item). Thus, the position may not require
> relocation--remote work is possible (for the right person).
>

Depending on the product or industry it serves there may be a manufacturers
association that has a web site with help wanted ads.

--
McWebber
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On 16 Jun 2004 19:38:19 GMT, "McWebber" <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
wrote:

>Depending on the product or industry it serves there may be a manufacturers
>association that has a web site with help wanted ads.

We don't exist as a business (yet), thus no memberships anywhere.
Thus, no freebies available (and the assocation is NOT free).

That is why I am looking.

Regards, Jerry

[Mod Note: I re-arranged the text in this post such that it reads from top to
bottom, with the new material at the bottom of the post. Please, folks, try not
to top-post. -- Mike]


On 16 Jun 2004 19:38:36 GMT, "BlackTieHosting.com"
<list.mail@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>"Gerald Abrahamson" <jerryab@visi.com> wrote in message
>news:capmp70dmi@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>
>>
>> We are planning to start a new business in the next few months,
>> thus we will be looking for someone to fill this role. We have
>> already received one funding offer and are expecting to receive
>> more, thus we are guardedly optimistic about getting this going
>> "for real".
>>
>> Any recommendations about *free* web sites that will allow us to
>> start looking now (before we have the start-up cash to spend)?
>>
>> I tried elance.com, thinking this could be done via contract as a
>> test to find someone--and they never contacted me after I
>> submitted the proposal (which is what they said they would do).
>>
>> The business will be located in Las Vegas, NV (ok, quit drooling
>> <g>!!). We will make and sell a physical product, and the nature
>> of our marketing and sales is B2B, not B2C (this is not a
>> consumer item). Thus, the position may not require
>> relocation--remote work is possible (for the right person).
>>
>> Regards, Jerry

>
>There are a number of job posting sites. Best bet is to run a
>search on an engine (yahoo.com, google.com etc).
>

This newsgroup is about as good as it gets.

>You can also try sites such as monster.com and hotjobs.com.
>

These charge a fee--and Monster message boards now cost $10/month.
And, for some reason, the remaning (few) free boards on Monster
don't allow job postings (surprise!).

Regards, Jerry

"Gerald Abrahamson" <jerryab@visi.com> wrote in message
news:carfs502m37@enews1.newsguy.com...
>
> >There are a number of job posting sites. Best bet is to run a
> >search on an engine (yahoo.com, google.com etc).
> >
>
> This newsgroup is about as good as it gets.
>
> >You can also try sites such as monster.com and hotjobs.com.
> >
>
> These charge a fee--and Monster message boards now cost $10/month.
> And, for some reason, the remaning (few) free boards on Monster
> don't allow job postings (surprise!).
>

I guess whatever product you plan on producing can't be worth much if you
can't afford $10 a month to reach the widest possible audience.

--
McWebber
"Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof
that he's operating appropriately."
Information Week, November 10, 2003

On 17 Jun 2004 20:04:36 GMT, "McWebber" <mcwebber@my-deja.com>
wrote:

>>
>> >You can also try sites such as monster.com and hotjobs.com.
>> >
>>
>> These charge a fee--and Monster message boards now cost $10/month.
>> And, for some reason, the remaning (few) free boards on Monster
>> don't allow job postings (surprise!).
>>
>
>I guess whatever product you plan on producing can't be worth much if you
>can't afford $10 a month to reach the widest possible audience.

Obviously, you have not seen the new Monster Networking. They lost
the vast majority of knowledgeable, no-cost, real-world
contributors in the changeover to the fee-based system.
Furthermore, most users did NOT sign up for the pay service, even
when it was initially offered at $2.99/month. There was no
perceived value in it at any price (except free). The new
Networking consists of a very few reasonable posts, with many
"business" opportunities posted. The general consensus is this is
a not-very-well-thought-out revenue-generating attempt by Monster.
It seems rather stupid to try to charge an unemployed person
$10/month so they can make contact and ask/answer questions with
others in the same situation while they look for a job.

Regards, Jerry

"Gerald Abrahamson" <jerryab@visi.com> wrote:
> The business will be located in Las Vegas, NV (ok,
> quit drooling <g>!!).

Don't worry I'm not ... nor will any good marketer. Good marketers are
drawn to good businesses, not locations. Anyway, as far as getting you a
good marketer...

Personally, I'd never hire someone that was looking for a job as a marketing
manager. Marketers really should never be out of work or be out looking for
a better deal. They are always being approached so there's little need to
go looking. What you should be looking for is a currently-employed marketer
that's damn smart and which you can tempt away from their current employer.
Or a full-time marketing consultant that would be up for a change of pace.
Being in your industry is a plus, but not really necessary. You want
someone that understands marketing at an intuitive level. And, truth be
told, those who do not are unemployed. However...

Good marketers don't come cheap. Get that funding in hand before going
after a marketer. Once you have the money, the good marketers will take you
seriously. If you need a marketer onboard to get the funding, you'll need
to promise a lot more (salary, stock, and stock options) to get them to use
their name to raise the funding. Any venture capitalist with a single
active brain cell will want to interview your marketer since the business
will be heavily dependent on their abilities to make it a success.

As for where to find the good marketers, network! Go to the meetings of
your local business association. Play poker at the country club. Talk to
everyone and anyone you know. Ask business people you know who they think
are good marketers that might be interested in your venture. Heck, try to
sweet talk one of the marketing pros that hang out here. Just realize that
marketers can spot hot air before it even rises. Being marketers, they're
expert hot air makers. So be real honest with them and you'll win points.

Good luck!

Scott Jensen
--
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