Final Fantasy XIII exclusivity to PS3 -uncertain- looks like X360 has a crack at it

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147392
http://www.dna.fr/france/20070321_DNA006098.html

"FF13 exclusive is being discussed
Interview with Sony France PR"

Babelfish
"The development cost of the plays exploded, it becomes difficult to
have exclusivenesses, except our own plays. But we will have as of
launching 30 plays, of which Motorstorm, Resistance or Virtua Fighter.
Moreover, we await 200 plays from here the end of 2007. Lastly, for
Final Fantasy XIII, I can say to you that exclusiveness is under
discussion."


if Final Fantasy XIII goes multi-platform that's probably the final
nail in PS3's coffin.

even if Metal Gear Solid 4 and Tekken stay PS3-exclusive (i think they
will) those two games aren't enough to hold PS3 afloat.


PS3 has lost, among others, the following exclusives

Resident Evil 5
Grand Theft Auto IV
Virtua Fighter 5
Devil May Cry 4
Ace Combat 6
Dragon Quest IX (PS3 isn't getting it at all, it's DS-exclusive!)


Sony is going to have to offer Square-Enix a ****TON of money to keep
FFXIII exclusive to PS3.


what do ya gotta say about that Blig Merk ?

In article <s73303hrec9ghvh7n1tl5u2l37j3nsqr60@4ax.com>, pluvius3
@hotmail.com says...
>
> Give a lot of money to Square... you mean just like they've been doing
> for years? Sony has no problem with shelling out the cash to keep the
> king in their castle.
>
Sony are not the cash rich company they once where.

"Rob Browning" <pluvius3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 21 Mar 2007 10:58:04 -0700, "AirRaid" <AirRaid1500@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>if Final Fantasy XIII goes multi-platform that's probably the final
>>nail in PS3's coffin.
>
> If it does (very doubtful), then it will come out on the 360 at least
> a year later. That won't have nearly the effect on the PS3 that you
> think that it will, especially since the Japanese would only think of
> getting a 360 if FF13 were truly exclusive for it.
>
>>even if Metal Gear Solid 4 and Tekken stay PS3-exclusive (i think they
>>will) those two games aren't enough to hold PS3 afloat.
>
> I assume you missed fan reaction to LittleBigPlanet? Never mind that
> you're forgetting well-established first-party franchises like Gran
> Turismo, Jak and Daxter, and God of War. Sony is much better on the
> first-party front than MS is; people just don't realize it because
> Sony doesn't strongly advertise the relationship for most of its
> franchises, while MS hypes up the only big first-party console series
> it has to the moon.
>
>>PS3 has lost, among others, the following exclusives
>>
>>Resident Evil 5
>>Grand Theft Auto IV
>
> These were never going to be exclusive. I don't know where you got
> the idea that they were, unless you believe everything you read on
> gaming blogs.
>
> BTW, the rumors for RE5 were that it was going to be exclusive for the
> 360, not for the PS3.
>
>>Virtua Fighter 5
>
> Not only is this not a very big franchise, but the PS3 does get it
> exclusively for about six months, which is as expected since Virtua
> Fighter was definitely not going to be exclusive to the PS3 for a
> great deal of time.
>
>>Devil May Cry 4
>
> This is a blow mainly because the two versions are coming out
> simultaneously, but I'm not sure that most DMC fans will migrate to
> the 360 simply because it happens to be coming out on that console as
> well, especially since it will be a long time before it's released. It
> really depends on whether or not the 360 will have more exclusive
> games that would appeal to a DMC fan than the PS3 will. The 360 has a
> much better lineup than it did a year ago, but the PS3 will also have
> a much better lineup a year from now.
>
>>Ace Combat 6
>
> Probably the only one that will hurt Sony in the long run, as this has
> apparently become a 360 exclusive. But then, the more popular
> Resident Evil was a Gamecube exclusive for a few years, which didn't
> seem to hurt the PS2 much.
>
>>Dragon Quest IX (PS3 isn't getting it at all, it's DS-exclusive!)
>
> The PS3 is not competing with the DS, so DQ9 is irrelevant. Sony only
> loses the small amount of people who (a) like DQ but not FF and (b)
> don't find anything else on the PS3 to their taste.
>
>>Sony is going to have to offer Square-Enix a ****TON of money to keep
>>FFXIII exclusive to PS3.
>
> Give a lot of money to Square... you mean just like they've been doing
> for years? Sony has no problem with shelling out the cash to keep the
> king in their castle.
>
> I know it's hard for guys like you to believe that there could be two
> strong consoles in one generation because the only previous time it
> ever happened was about 15 years ago, but it's going to happen again,
> count on it.
>
> Rob


i think the point people are trying to make is, with each month that goes by
there is less and less of a reason to own a PS3, and that's a fact
considering news like ace combat and dmc keeps surfacing consistantly.
personally, i believe mgs4 will eventually go to the 360 as well, along with
ff

On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:57:47 -0000, Gray One
<snm_ukTROUSERS@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In article <s73303hrec9ghvh7n1tl5u2l37j3nsqr60@4ax.com>, pluvius3
>@hotmail.com says...
>>
>> Give a lot of money to Square... you mean just like they've been doing
>> for years? Sony has no problem with shelling out the cash to keep the
>> king in their castle.
>>
>Sony are not the cash rich company they once where.

I'm of the belief that Sony is willing to do whatever it takes to push
the PS3 and (more importantly to them) BluRay into a position of
dominance. They might not have a ton of money, but they have enough.

Rob
ploovTeHSPaeMBLoKuR@suddenlink.net

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"Rob Browning" <pluvius3@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:57:47 -0000, Gray One
> <snm_ukTROUSERS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <s73303hrec9ghvh7n1tl5u2l37j3nsqr60@4ax.com>, pluvius3
>>@hotmail.com says...
>>>
>>> Give a lot of money to Square... you mean just like they've been doing
>>> for years? Sony has no problem with shelling out the cash to keep the
>>> king in their castle.
>>>
>>Sony are not the cash rich company they once where.
>
> I'm of the belief that Sony is willing to do whatever it takes to push
> the PS3 and (more importantly to them) BluRay into a position of
> dominance. They might not have a ton of money, but they have enough.

not as much microsoft
not even 1 /10 of microsoft

so if microsoft want, can crack the exclusivity of FF13
and i bet that they want..

Neural Noise wrote:
> "Rob Browning" <pluvius3@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:5m630391bmrutosqje25vedrub3aimiasi@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:57:47 -0000, Gray One
>> <snm_ukTROUSERS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <s73303hrec9ghvh7n1tl5u2l37j3nsqr60@4ax.com>, pluvius3
>>> @hotmail.com says...
>>>> Give a lot of money to Square... you mean just like they've been doing
>>>> for years? Sony has no problem with shelling out the cash to keep the
>>>> king in their castle.
>>>>
>>> Sony are not the cash rich company they once where.
>> I'm of the belief that Sony is willing to do whatever it takes to push
>> the PS3 and (more importantly to them) BluRay into a position of
>> dominance. They might not have a ton of money, but they have enough.
>
> not as much microsoft
> not even 1 /10 of microsoft
>
> so if microsoft want, can crack the exclusivity of FF13
> and i bet that they want..
>
>
Also, think about this for a second. Sony may win a massive pyrrhic
victory over HD-DVD to be the leader in a small and soon dead market
because no-one wants it. That IS a possibilty y'know. It's not like
millions of people will rush out and buy 1080p HD TVs to turn it into a
big enough market like DVD is now.

The games industry is in a mess as well. Games cost waaaaay too much to
develop for the HD games market and they need to sell shed loads to
recoup costs

On 2007-03-22 11:22:25 +0000, DBSnappa
<davidjREMOVEMEboughton@hotmail.com> said:

> Neural Noise wrote:
>> "Rob Browning" <pluvius3@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>> news:5m630391bmrutosqje25vedrub3aimiasi@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:57:47 -0000, Gray One
>>> <snm_ukTROUSERS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <s73303hrec9ghvh7n1tl5u2l37j3nsqr60@4ax.com>, pluvius3
>>>> @hotmail.com says...
>>>>> Give a lot of money to Square... you mean just like they've been doing
>>>>> for years? Sony has no problem with shelling out the cash to keep the
>>>>> king in their castle.
>>>>>
>>>> Sony are not the cash rich company they once where.
>>> I'm of the belief that Sony is willing to do whatever it takes to push
>>> the PS3 and (more importantly to them) BluRay into a position of
>>> dominance. They might not have a ton of money, but they have enough.
>>
>> not as much microsoft
>> not even 1 /10 of microsoft
>>
>> so if microsoft want, can crack the exclusivity of FF13
>> and i bet that they want..
>>
>>
> Also, think about this for a second. Sony may win a massive pyrrhic
> victory over HD-DVD to be the leader in a small and soon dead market
> because no-one wants it. That IS a possibilty y'know. It's not like
> millions of people will rush out and buy 1080p HD TVs to turn it into a
> big enough market like DVD is now.
>
> The games industry is in a mess as well. Games cost waaaaay too much to
> develop for the HD games market and they need to sell shed loads to
> recoup costs

I don't get, given that MS have already blown about $6billion on the
project, why they don't just throw $50m each at Square and Rockstar for
complete exclusivity. And then you have it, global game over in one
shot.

--
Zo

Zomoniac wrote:
> On 2007-03-22 11:22:25 +0000, DBSnappa
> <davidjREMOVEMEboughton@hotmail.com> said:
>
>> Neural Noise wrote:
>>> "Rob Browning" <pluvius3@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>> news:5m630391bmrutosqje25vedrub3aimiasi@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:57:47 -0000, Gray One
>>>> <snm_ukTROUSERS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <s73303hrec9ghvh7n1tl5u2l37j3nsqr60@4ax.com>, pluvius3
>>>>> @hotmail.com says...
>>>>>> Give a lot of money to Square... you mean just like they've been
>>>>>> doing
>>>>>> for years? Sony has no problem with shelling out the cash to keep
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> king in their castle.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sony are not the cash rich company they once where.
>>>> I'm of the belief that Sony is willing to do whatever it takes to push
>>>> the PS3 and (more importantly to them) BluRay into a position of
>>>> dominance. They might not have a ton of money, but they have enough.
>>>
>>> not as much microsoft
>>> not even 1 /10 of microsoft
>>>
>>> so if microsoft want, can crack the exclusivity of FF13
>>> and i bet that they want..
>>>
>>>
>> Also, think about this for a second. Sony may win a massive pyrrhic
>> victory over HD-DVD to be the leader in a small and soon dead market
>> because no-one wants it. That IS a possibilty y'know. It's not like
>> millions of people will rush out and buy 1080p HD TVs to turn it into
>> a big enough market like DVD is now.
>>
>> The games industry is in a mess as well. Games cost waaaaay too much
>> to develop for the HD games market and they need to sell shed loads to
>> recoup costs
>
> I don't get, given that MS have already blown about $6billion on the
> project, why they don't just throw $50m each at Square and Rockstar for
> complete exclusivity. And then you have it, global game over in one shot.
>
Well, maybe they've offered and been turned down. Who knows - maybe they
don't want exclusivity - maybe someone as MSGS hates the FF games and
wouldn't pay $50 for a copy let alone $50m for an exclusive launch.

There is a rumour, and I hasten to add it is nothing more than that,
that Take 2 are going to be put up for sale and MS are going to throw
their hat into the ring.

MS also have some of their own produced big sellers - Halo 3 for one
(regardless of whether you think it's any good or not, it WILL sell) as
well as Forza 2 (this will shift machines as well) which I think is
shaping up to be better than GT5 or whatever it will be called, and
that's the biggest selling franchise on the PS.

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:22:25 GMT, DBSnappa
<davidjREMOVEMEboughton@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Also, think about this for a second. Sony may win a massive pyrrhic
>victory over HD-DVD to be the leader in a small and soon dead market
>because no-one wants it. That IS a possibilty y'know. It's not like

Nobody really wanted DVD at first either; VHS was just fine, and
moreover you could record on it. It's not consumer demand that drives
these new forms of media, but studio demand. Then consumer demand
catches up when the players and discs get cheaper and people realize
that the improvement over the older medium is significant.

Rob
ploovTeHSPaeMBLoKuR@suddenlink.net

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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:29:38 +0000, Zomoniac
<the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I don't get, given that MS have already blown about $6billion on the
>project, why they don't just throw $50m each at Square and Rockstar for
>complete exclusivity. And then you have it, global game over in one
>shot.

You're insane if you think $50 million would do it in either case.
What I do find interesting are the rumors that Microsoft will buy out
Take Two, but I'm not sure if Rockstar's relationship with that
publisher would oblige them to go along with it.

Rob
ploovTeHSPaeMBLoKuR@suddenlink.net

--

Owner of 2501 Netstalker Points awarded by Corwin of Amber, mainly
because Atma's just too damn attractive to get away from.

Gave 7499 Netstalker Points to Cypher because there's no such thing as
a good day on AGFF without JT bashing!

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"Some people are more passionate about preserving foreskin than they
are about the environment, human life, and a million other subjects.
If you're going to have an obsession, at least get a good one, like
Tetris or that girl that said no when she really meant yes."
--Josh "Livestock" Boruff, Something Awful ALoD 10-11-06