PROOF that the PS3 in Europe is a DISASTER

http://ukresistance.co.uk/pics4/ps3-currys-evidence.jpg

Currys, the UKs biggest electronics retailer, is desperate to get pre-
orders sold!!!

The counter is, of course, that Sony has done the impossible and
supplied to meet demand. However, as any console veteran knows, if a
retailer is openly insisting it's staff try to sell more pre-orders
because they have not met their targets, then it's clearly a dud.

The PS3 will sell a few hundred thousand this friday, but after that,
sales will be sloooow.

Two bits of evidence:

1. A friend of mine put down a pre-order for a PS3, she doesn't even
know why - she just had a £50 off voucher from a catalogue shopping
company. She's going to cancel because she didn't realise it doesn't
'come with any games' and that she needs a high def TV to play Blu-Ray
movies, and to get the best out of the console.

2. The sole person at work to pre-order a Ps3 is going to return his
pre-order because he realised he just can't justify £425, and then
have to fork out another £40-80 for games. He doesn't even have a High
Def TV either.

3. My local BlockBusters is unable to shift them. They were asking me
why it's more expensive, and were confused about why the PS3 won't
play HD-DVDs, or the 360 HD-DVD player wont play Blu-Ray disks.

I'm willing to bet that 1000s of these so called 'highly anticipated'
pre-orders that Sony and it's minions boast about, are merely chavs
pre-ordering simply because it's a Playstration 3, and havent really
thought it through.

£500 for a PS3, HDMI cable, 2 games, well - that's a LOT of money.

In the same blockbusters, they are selling XBOX 360 core units with 1
game and a 64 mb memory unit. for £200. Essentially, it does the same
as a PS3 for most consumers, and they don't have to fork out nearly
£260 more. That can get you every AAA 360 game, some of which are on
discount/sale/classics lables.
Or you can buy an XBOX 360 HD-DVD player for £130 and 5 movies, and
VGA cable for 1080p. (Given that you have to pay £25 for a Blu-Ray
remote).

Simply put, once the fiasco that is the Playstation 3 launch is over,
there will be a lot of people wondering what they've just spent £425
on, realising they now need to spend another £600 on a new TV, and
another £10-20 on a HDMI cable, that half their PS2 games don't load,
and that after all that expense their friends £199 XBOX 360 has better
looking, amd more fun games.

The PS3 is DOOMED in Europe.

On Mar 19, 6:38 pm, "Sammus McMouldenus" <bigboobs_li...@lycos.co.uk>
wrote:

> http://ukresistance.co.uk/pics4/ps3-currys-evidence.jpg
>
> Currys, the UKs biggest electronics retailer, is desperate to get pre-
> orders sold!!!

I think a lot of it has to do with an evaporating eBay effect. The
European eBay whores saw a whole bunch of Japanese and Americans get
burned and they aren't eager to repeat the experience.

Still, you can't count your systems before the launch... Sony could
end up surprising everyone.

Current Stats:

Japan:
1) Wii
2) PS3
3) 360

U.S.
1) 360
2) Wii
3) PS3

Europe
1) 360
2) Wii

My prediction for the end of 2007:

Japan:
1) Wii
2) PS3
3) 360

U.S.
1) Wii
2) 360
3) PS3

Europe
1) Wii
2) 360
3) PS3

- Jordan


- Jordan

On Mar 19, 9:51 pm, "Jordan" <l...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> My prediction for the end of 2007:
>
> Japan:
> 1) Wii
> 2) PS3
> 3) 360
>
> U.S.
> 1) Wii
> 2) 360
> 3) PS3
>
> Europe
> 1) Wii
> 2) 360
> 3) PS3

Installed base, or sales rate? Sales rate I see, but the 360 has a
large enough lead, I don't see it as likely. For the Wii to catch up
it would have to succeed the 360 by over 500,000 per month.

- The Rich

> The PS3 is DOOMED in Europe.

remember the xflop, well now its the PS Flee ;o)

was going to get one myself, now looking at a wireless laptop for garden for
when the heatwave gets here.

"Sammus McMouldenus" <bigboobs_linda@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1174354685.842463.55390@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
http://ukresistance.co.uk/pics4/ps3-currys-evidence.jpg

SNIP

Heh heh, I love the word "chav".

On 2007-03-20 01:51:59 +0000, "Jordan" <lundj@earthlink.net> said:

> On Mar 19, 6:38 pm, "Sammus McMouldenus" <bigboobs_li...@lycos.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> http://ukresistance.co.uk/pics4/ps3-currys-evidence.jpg
>>
>> Currys, the UKs biggest electronics retailer, is desperate to get pre-
>> orders sold!!!
>
> I think a lot of it has to do with an evaporating eBay effect. The
> European eBay whores saw a whole bunch of Japanese and Americans get
> burned and they aren't eager to repeat the experience.
>
> Still, you can't count your systems before the launch... Sony could
> end up surprising everyone.
>
> Current Stats:
>
> Japan:
> 1) Wii
> 2) PS3
> 3) 360
>
> U.S.
> 1) 360
> 2) Wii
> 3) PS3
>
> Europe
> 1) 360
> 2) Wii
>
> My prediction for the end of 2007:
>
> Japan:
> 1) Wii
> 2) PS3
> 3) 360
>
> U.S.
> 1) Wii
> 2) 360
> 3) PS3
>
> Europe
> 1) Wii
> 2) 360
> 3) PS3

I can't see that happening. I know a lot of people with a Wii and I
don't know a single one of them who thinks they'll still have it in two
months. If it doesn't get some very good games pretty quickly, I think
it will drop one position in each of your 2007 lists.

--
Zo

On Mar 19, 8:33 pm, "Penguin Commandos for Gore."
<getr...@1upandup.com> wrote:
> On Mar 19, 9:51 pm, "Jordan" <l...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > My prediction for the end of 2007:
>
> > Japan:
> > 1) Wii
> > 2) PS3
> > 3) 360
>
> > U.S.
> > 1) Wii
> > 2) 360
> > 3) PS3
>
> > Europe
> > 1) Wii
> > 2) 360
> > 3) PS3
>
> Installed base, or sales rate? Sales rate I see, but the 360 has a
> large enough lead, I don't see it as likely. For the Wii to catch up
> it would have to succeed the 360 by over 500,000 per month.

Both. The Wii already has 1/2 the user base the 360 has and they did
it in, what? 4 months?

- Jordan

"Jordan" <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1174355519.212718.101160@y66g2000hsf.googlegr oups.com...
> On Mar 19, 6:38 pm, "Sammus McMouldenus" <bigboobs_li...@lycos.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> http://ukresistance.co.uk/pics4/ps3-currys-evidence.jpg
>>
>> Currys, the UKs biggest electronics retailer, is desperate to get pre-
>> orders sold!!!
>
> I think a lot of it has to do with an evaporating eBay effect. The
> European eBay whores saw a whole bunch of Japanese and Americans get
> burned and they aren't eager to repeat the experience.
>
> Still, you can't count your systems before the launch... Sony could
> end up surprising everyone.
>
> Current Stats:
>
> Japan:
> 1) Wii
> 2) PS3
> 3) 360
>
> U.S.
> 1) 360
> 2) Wii
> 3) PS3
>
> Europe
> 1) 360
> 2) Wii
>
> My prediction for the end of 2007:
>
> Japan:
> 1) Wii
> 2) PS3
> 3) 360
>
> U.S.
> 1) Wii
> 2) 360
> 3) PS3
>
> Europe
> 1) Wii
> 2) 360
> 3) PS3

I agree with your prediction. The only way the 360 has a chance of
retaining it's #1 position is North America and Europe would be to have a
major price drop (at least $100 US on the Premium but more like $150 US).

John J wrote:
> "Jordan" <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:1174355519.212718.101160@y66g2000hsf.googlegr oups.com...
>> On Mar 19, 6:38 pm, "Sammus McMouldenus" <bigboobs_li...@lycos.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://ukresistance.co.uk/pics4/ps3-currys-evidence.jpg
>>>
>>> Currys, the UKs biggest electronics retailer, is desperate to get pre-
>>> orders sold!!!
>> I think a lot of it has to do with an evaporating eBay effect. The
>> European eBay whores saw a whole bunch of Japanese and Americans get
>> burned and they aren't eager to repeat the experience.
>>
>> Still, you can't count your systems before the launch... Sony could
>> end up surprising everyone.
>>
>> Current Stats:
>>
>> Japan:
>> 1) Wii
>> 2) PS3
>> 3) 360
>>
>> U.S.
>> 1) 360
>> 2) Wii
>> 3) PS3
>>
>> Europe
>> 1) 360
>> 2) Wii
>>
>> My prediction for the end of 2007:
>>
>> Japan:
>> 1) Wii
>> 2) PS3
>> 3) 360
>>
>> U.S.
>> 1) Wii
>> 2) 360
>> 3) PS3
>>
>> Europe
>> 1) Wii
>> 2) 360
>> 3) PS3
>
> I agree with your prediction. The only way the 360 has a chance of
> retaining it's #1 position is North America and Europe would be to have a
> major price drop (at least $100 US on the Premium but more like $150 US).
>
>
I wouldn't feel comfortable predicting any such result for the Wii -
there's an artificial demand for it right now - it could carry on as is,
but for me the big problem as an owner is lack of decent software
available over the next 12 months - something the 360 can't be accused of.

You'd need to do some complex speculation on the console sales jumps
created by some marquee titles being released in the next year, of which
the 360 has many more than the wii coming.

All I'm saying is I don't know if the Wii will be no1 worldwide in 12
months time and I don't see how any of you can do anythign other than
guess right now - there are too many variables to take on board.

Having said all that, I would feel pretty confident predicting the PS3
won't be no1

On Mar 20, 7:44 am, DBSnappa <davidjREMOVEMEbough...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> John J wrote:
> > "Jordan" <l...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:1174355519.212718.101160@y66g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
> >> On Mar 19, 6:38 pm, "Sammus McMouldenus" <bigboobs_li...@lycos.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>http://ukresistance.co.uk/pics4/ps3-currys-evidence.jpg
>
> >>> Currys, the UKs biggest electronics retailer, is desperate to get pre-
> >>> orders sold!!!
> >> I think a lot of it has to do with an evaporating eBay effect. The
> >> European eBay whores saw a whole bunch of Japanese and Americans get
> >> burned and they aren't eager to repeat the experience.
>
> >> Still, you can't count your systems before the launch... Sony could
> >> end up surprising everyone.
>
> >> Current Stats:
>
> >> Japan:
> >> 1) Wii
> >> 2) PS3
> >> 3) 360
>
> >> U.S.
> >> 1) 360
> >> 2) Wii
> >> 3) PS3
>
> >> Europe
> >> 1) 360
> >> 2) Wii
>
> >> My prediction for the end of 2007:
>
> >> Japan:
> >> 1) Wii
> >> 2) PS3
> >> 3) 360
>
> >> U.S.
> >> 1) Wii
> >> 2) 360
> >> 3) PS3
>
> >> Europe
> >> 1) Wii
> >> 2) 360
> >> 3) PS3
>
> > I agree with your prediction. The only way the 360 has a chance of
> > retaining it's #1 position is North America and Europe would be to have a
> > major price drop (at least $100 US on the Premium but more like $150 US).
>
> I wouldn't feel comfortable predicting any such result for the Wii -
> there's an artificial demand for it right now - it could carry on as is,
> but for me the big problem as an owner is lack of decent software
> available over the next 12 months - something the 360 can't be accused of.
>
> You'd need to do some complex speculation on the console sales jumps
> created by some marquee titles being released in the next year, of which
> the 360 has many more than the wii coming.
>
> All I'm saying is I don't know if the Wii will be no1 worldwide in 12
> months time and I don't see how any of you can do anythign other than
> guess right now - there are too many variables to take on board.
>
> Having said all that, I would feel pretty confident predicting the PS3
> won't be no1

The Wii has plenty of top titles coming this year - Super Smash Bros.,
Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Super Paper Mario, the next Pokemon
Colosseum type game... with the exception of perhaps Metroid Prime 3
(since the second didn't sell as well as they hoped), these are all
likely blockbusters.

The question is whether these types of games can attract the casual
gamers who are contributing the most to the high sales rate for the
system.