Help with Clone Stamp tool please

Back in the Windows 95 days Micrografx Picture Publisher had a very
handy clone tool called Mirror Clone which would mirror clone
horizontally, vertically or diagonally.

In order to do this in Photoshop, I have to duplicate the file, flip
canvas either horizontally or vertically, sometimes rotate it 180
degrees then clone from the duplicate back into the original. This can
be very cumbersome and a pain too when working with files several megs
in size.

I anxiously check every new release of Photoshop looking for this
function and haven't yet found it. Can't believe that Adobe wouldn't
include something as simple as this that MPP had 12-15 years ago.

Is there a simpler way to mirror clone in Photoshop? Am I missing
something here?

<justme@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Back in the Windows 95 days Micrografx Picture Publisher had a very
> handy clone tool called Mirror Clone which would mirror clone
> horizontally, vertically or diagonally.
>
> In order to do this in Photoshop, I have to duplicate the file, flip
> canvas either horizontally or vertically, sometimes rotate it 180
> degrees then clone from the duplicate back into the original. This can
> be very cumbersome and a pain too when working with files several megs
> in size.
>
> I anxiously check every new release of Photoshop looking for this
> function and haven't yet found it. Can't believe that Adobe wouldn't
> include something as simple as this that MPP had 12-15 years ago.
>
> Is there a simpler way to mirror clone in Photoshop? Am I missing
> something here?

As of CS3 you can rotate and scale the clone tool. Specify a negative width
and/or height for a mirror image.
--
Mike Russell - www.curvemeister.com

justme@nospam.com wrote:

<snip>
> I anxiously check every new release of Photoshop looking for this
> function and haven't yet found it. Can't believe that Adobe wouldn't
> include something as simple as this that MPP had 12-15 years ago.

As long as you are not going to learn there will be lot more thing you
can't believe.

> Is there a simpler way to mirror clone in Photoshop? Am I missing
> something here?

- Mirror Cloning NO

- Possible way? you can have 1001 possible ways

What you can't believe is some very basic that most Photoshop users don't
even think about it. Have you heard of something like "Layer", "Quick
Mask", "Transform" (or even erase) etc..?

In article <qhfd63981s7jl3u2cu5t6hrm30ie5343rv@4ax.com>,
justme@nospam.com wrote:

> In order to do this in Photoshop, I have to duplicate the file, flip
> canvas either horizontally or vertically, sometimes rotate it 180
> degrees then clone from the duplicate back into the original. This can
> be very cumbersome and a pain too when working with files several megs
> in size.

Wow, that is clumsy.

Why not just duplicate the image into another layer, flip the layer,
hide it with a mask, and then paint on the mask with a paintbrush?

--
Photography, kink, polyamory, shareware, and more: all at
http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:41:03 -0400, tacit <tacitr@aol.com> wrote:


>Why not just duplicate the image into another layer, flip the layer,
>hide it with a mask, and then paint on the mask with a paintbrush?

Cuz I don't know how. Tried to figure out layers several times
and never got anywhere.

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:28:51 GMT, "Mike Russell"
<RE-MOVEmike@Curvemeister.comRE-MOVE> wrote:

>As of CS3 you can rotate and scale the clone tool. Specify a negative width
>and/or height for a mirror image.

Tried what you suggested and while it worked, it'll take some
practice and playing around to actually make it work properly for me.
Thanks Mike for a straight-forward reply. Much appreciated.

justme@nospam.com wrote:

> On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:41:03 -0400, tacit <tacitr@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> >Why not just duplicate the image into another layer, flip the layer,
> >hide it with a mask, and then paint on the mask with a paintbrush?
>
> Cuz I don't know how. Tried to figure out layers several times
> and never got anywhere.

*If* you don't know then I would suggest you to ASK for instruction
instead of acting like you know so well (or you know what Photoshop has and
doesn't have).

LAYER is one of the basics but very advance that you need to learn, else you
may not be able to go very far. And Layer alone wouldn't get you much
further *if* you don't learn few other basic commands.

If you don't know any basic (or mastered few basic commands) then I would
suggest to GOOGLE for some video tutorial and watch how other uses Layer and
other commands.

In article <oaie63dejttf0qtnu6ugr4q9oig5pajogg@4ax.com>,
justme@nospam.com wrote:

> Cuz I don't know how. Tried to figure out layers several times
> and never got anywhere.

Layers are easy to understand in principle. Imagine in your head a whole
stack of sheets of glass. Each sheet of glass has a picture painted on
it. That's all layers are, really.

You can move things around in the stack, you can move a particular sheet
of glass up and down in the stack...that's layers, right there.

--
Photography, kink, polyamory, shareware, and more: all at
http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

I stopped using Picture Publisher about 8 months ago and started watching
Total Training's CS2 tutorials. They revealed a lot to me and I am sorry
that I didn't change to photoshop years ago.

Once you get to grips with a few things you realise that there are a lot of
ways to do many things, some of which may not be as easy to do as in other
applications but with the amount of power you have with photoshop I would
recommend learning it.

But if you don't want to learn it, you can still get Picture Publisher 10.
Corel may have taken over but i'm sure that it has the same features.


<justme@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Back in the Windows 95 days Micrografx Picture Publisher had a very
> handy clone tool called Mirror Clone which would mirror clone
> horizontally, vertically or diagonally.
>
> In order to do this in Photoshop, I have to duplicate the file, flip
> canvas either horizontally or vertically, sometimes rotate it 180
> degrees then clone from the duplicate back into the original. This can
> be very cumbersome and a pain too when working with files several megs
> in size.
>
> I anxiously check every new release of Photoshop looking for this
> function and haven't yet found it. Can't believe that Adobe wouldn't
> include something as simple as this that MPP had 12-15 years ago.
>
> Is there a simpler way to mirror clone in Photoshop? Am I missing
> something here?