Well crap. There goes my perfect record.

PeterD wrote:

} now you know: leave a neg, get a neg.

That's often true, but it's not right. It makes as much sense as a court judge
automatically serving a prison term every time he sentences a criminal to a
prison term. If judges worried about retaliation every time they sentenced a
criminal, many of them would let criminals get off lightly or even go free.

A similar principle can occur (and perhaps already does occur to a degree) on
eBay. A seller who routinely misrepresents his own merchandise can get away with
continuing to rip off more customers, if many customers are intimidated from
leaving negative feedback. (Although I used a seller in the example, the same
also applies to deadbeat buyers.)

EBay might have rules to prevent retaliatory negatives from sticking; if they
don't, they should. Their upcoming new feedback system does nothing to remedy
the problem of feedback misuse; it just makes the feedback system more
complicated.

Lee wrote:

> Just whining here. I am an ebay buyer. I thought I was a seller's dream
> customer, y'know, bid, pay immediately, then leave feedback upon receipt
> of item, and never ASK for feedback . . . My buyer feedback was 176
> Positive, now it's 175 and 99.4%
>
> But Noooo.. Last year, that's right, LAST year, I won a small item, and
> as usual, paid the same day by PayPal. Three weeks later, no item, seller
> went NARU, no word from seller, so I sent a message via Ebay. No
> response, so after 5 weeks and another message, I filed for a refund via
> PayPal, the seller never responded, and ultimately my payment was
> refunded in full. Seller's account was later reinstated, and I left a
> neg: "Pd. immediately by PayPal, no item, no resp to email, PayPal
> settled in my favor."
>
> TODAY, I received my first neg: "Thanks for the garbage feedback, right
> back at ya:-) "
>
> It sucks that a seller can leave a retaliatory neg MONTHS after PayPal
> makes a full refund to the buyer, who fulfilled their part of the
> contract. Sigh.
>
> Lee

WELL OF COURSE! Now you know what the SCUM SIDE of eBay and their serial
gorilla trolls are all about!

It was INEVITABLE!

You have plenty of company!!!!!

Now I will go read what the same eBay Scum Patrol has to say
for itself here, under your post. Did not read it first before posting
so as not to ERP! too soon.

Have yourself a nice day if you can. DO NOT TAKE EBAY SERIOUSLY! You might
as well let a rapist in with your daughter.

Take care -
KLM

Lumpy wrote:

> googler wrote:
> > MY ADVICE: Leave an honest, unemotional response...
>
> You seem to have taken a 180 in your feedback viewpoint
> based on your previous posts.
>
> Lumpy
> --
> You were the Tidy Bowl Guy?
> Yes. I'm cleaning your bathroom bowl.
> www.lumpyvoice.org

Huh? You again! Cant keep up can ya? Go wash your goldfish.

Ignoramus16627 wrote:

> The importance of this event as far as any real consequences to you,
> are nil, assuming that you have a separate buyer account and separate
> seller account.
>
> i

But if not then ? Edtz^2....nth = E1...En/[b/cf2[Nr..o}p]G]
iff b satisfies the nth root of R' on
Thursdays
according to the Chaldean calendar of 2000BC!

subject of course to the consumer guide pg 20596 paragraph 18,
1914 edition!

Good luck!

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:22:27 -0500, "jim menning"
<jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"rjn" <email4rjn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1177885125.737087.297650@e65g2000hsc.googleg roups.com...
>> "jim menning" <jmenningS...@new.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > Which rule?
>>
>>> Uh, the one I quoted (before you changed my quote).
>>
>> Oh, you mean the:-)
>> FB: "... PayPal settled in my favor."
>> Rule: "The feedback makes reference to an eBay, PayPal
>> or law enforcement organization investigation."
>>
>> Guess so.
>> FB: "... recovered payment."
>> is probably a safer way to express it, leaving the
>> reader to draw their own conclusions about how.
>>
>> Is it supposed that the seller's post-NARU
>> retaliatory neg is also [still] a violation as well?
>> It used to be.
>>
>
>I don't really care one way or another. If the buyer didn't post the feedback they
>did, they wouldn't have gotten the negative in return. Then they wouldn't be wasting
>our time by whining now. Negatives breed negatives as one party tries to one-up the
>other. That's just the way things work.
>

Maybe that is why ebay is going to the FB system they are playing
with. Avoids the chance of seller retaliatory negging. Sellers are
the ones that cause all problems.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:07:50 -0700, Don Lancaster <don@tinaja.com>
wrote:

>Lee wrote:
>> Just whining here. I am an ebay buyer. I thought I was a seller's dream
>> customer, y'know, bid, pay immediately, then leave feedback upon receipt
>> of item, and never ASK for feedback . . . My buyer feedback was 176
>> Positive, now it's 175 and 99.4%
>>
>> But Noooo.. Last year, that's right, LAST year, I won a small item, and
>> as usual, paid the same day by PayPal. Three weeks later, no item, seller
>> went NARU, no word from seller, so I sent a message via Ebay. No
>> response, so after 5 weeks and another message, I filed for a refund via
>> PayPal, the seller never responded, and ultimately my payment was
>> refunded in full. Seller's account was later reinstated, and I left a
>> neg: "Pd. immediately by PayPal, no item, no resp to email, PayPal
>> settled in my favor."
>>
>> TODAY, I received my first neg: "Thanks for the garbage feedback, right
>> back at ya:-) "
>>
>> It sucks that a seller can leave a retaliatory neg MONTHS after PayPal
>> makes a full refund to the buyer, who fulfilled their part of the
>> contract. Sigh.
>>
>> Lee
>
>If the buyer fulfilled their part of the contract, they would not have
>been negged.
>

You are so full of ****.

BlueEyes@BaldHead.Invalid wrote:

>>
>>
>
>Maybe that is why ebay is going to the FB system they are playing
>with. Avoids the chance of seller retaliatory negging. Sellers are
>the ones that cause all problems.
>
>

And just why do they get upset when a high bidder never pays? The nerve.

"Lee" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns99219AB448105Lee@130.133.1.4...
> Just whining here. I am an ebay buyer. I thought I was a seller's dream
> customer, y'know, bid, pay immediately, then leave feedback upon receipt
> of item, and never ASK for feedback . . . My buyer feedback was 176
> Positive, now it's 175 and 99.4%
>
> But Noooo.. Last year, that's right, LAST year, I won a small item, and
> as usual, paid the same day by PayPal. Three weeks later, no item, seller
> went NARU, no word from seller, so I sent a message via Ebay. No
> response, so after 5 weeks and another message, I filed for a refund via
> PayPal, the seller never responded, and ultimately my payment was
> refunded in full. Seller's account was later reinstated, and I left a
> neg: "Pd. immediately by PayPal, no item, no resp to email, PayPal
> settled in my favor."
>
> TODAY, I received my first neg: "Thanks for the garbage feedback, right
> back at ya:-) "
>
> It sucks that a seller can leave a retaliatory neg MONTHS after PayPal
> makes a full refund to the buyer, who fulfilled their part of the
> contract. Sigh.
>
> Lee

With a few exceptions. The eBay feedback system is a complete cluster-****.

Also, Never, Ever leave feedback first except in the case where seller ships
product. You're happy. Leave him a good feedback.

"mnop" <qrz@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:46357030.D4E5AAC4@mchsi.com...
>
>
> KLM


Can we say OOPS, KLM?

On Apr 29, 3:10 pm, Lee <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> seller went NARU

You should request withdrawal under the following condition:

"Feedback left by a person ineligible to participate in eBay
transactions, according to Section 1 of the eBay User Agreement, at
the time of the transaction or the time the feedback was left."