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Old 05-31-2007, 12:36 AM   #1
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http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i...07&c=1&s=engle

Buyer Beware
by JONAH ENGLE

[posted online on June 20, 2003]

Speaking at a conference this winter on Internet crime, eBay.com's
director of law enforcement and compliance, Joseph Sullivan, offered
law-enforcement officials extensive access to personal customer
information.

Founded in 1995 as a niche site for collectibles, eBay quickly grew into
one of the Internet's largest websites, currently boasting 69 million
daily visitors, who place an average of 7.7 million bids each day. The
company, now valued at $29.6 billion, has become synonymous with online
shopping, and is rapidly expanding overseas.

The talk, "Working with Law Enforcement," was delivered at the CyberCrime
2003 conference in Mashantucket, Connecticut. Sullivan, who left the
Justice Department to become senior counsel for rules, trust and safety at
eBay last year, told the audience of law-enforcement officials and
industry executives that he didn't "know another website that has a
privacy policy as flexible as eBay's," seemingly meaning that eBay acts
particularly quickly to grant law enforcement extensive access to user
information without regard to established legal procedures that protect
individuals from civil rights abuses by the state.

Brags Sullivan, "If you are a law-enforcement officer, all you have to do
is send us a fax with a request for information, and ask about the person
behind the seller's identity number, and we will provide you with his
name, address, sales history and other details--all without having to
produce a court order." (eBay itself goes further than this, employing six
investigators who are charged with tracking down "suspicious people" and
"suspicious behavior.")

Seventy percent of eBay customers, as well as a significant portion of the
rest of the online commercial world, make their purchases using
(eBay-owned) Paypal, which provides clearing services for online financial
transactions. Through Paypal, eBay has access to the financial records of
tens of millions of customers. "If you contact me," said Sullivan to
assembled law-enforcement authorities, "I will hook you up with the Paypal
people. They will help you get the information you're looking for.... In
order to give you details about credit-card transactions, I have to see a
court order. I suggest that you get one, if that's what you're looking
for."

Sullivan even offered to conscript eBay's employees in virtual sting
operations: "Tell us what you want to ask the bad guys. We'll send them a
form, signed by us, and ask them your questions. We will send their
answers directly to your e-mail."

Sullivan's statements were first reported by Yuval Dror in the Tel
Aviv-based daily Ha'aretz; surprisingly, they have received no coverage in
the US media. And, while they may seem extreme, Sullivan's eBay policies
seem to fit into a larger pattern of eroding online privacy.

In the fall of 2001 a Stanford-educated Pakistani scientist, a permanent
resident of the United States, was visited at his home in the Bay Area by
the FBI, who asked about several books he'd recently purchased on eBay.
The man's lawyer said the FBI agent reported having been alerted by eBay.
eBay denied having provided the information to the FBI, and the bureau
refused to comment.

eBay avoids legal trouble with its customers by giving itself carte
blanche to divulge any and all personal information. Its hard-to-find
privacy policy says: "Due to the existing regulatory environment, we
cannot ensure that all of your private communications and other personal
information will never be disclosed in ways not otherwise described in
this Privacy Policy."

Until recently, in the Internet world "cooperation with government was
seen as a betrayal of the unwritten contract between the user and service
provider," says Nimrod Kozlovski of the Information Society Project, a
Yale-based center that studies democracy and freedom in the digital age.
This understanding held that the "provider would protect the consumer from
government snooping." Kozlovski believes that "September 11th changed
things dramatically," much as it did for privacy and civil-liberties
issues in other realms. He observes that eBay followed the trend by
rebranding itself and changing its privacy and policy statements "to
accommodate this new vision of the company as one which was [not only]
cooperative with the government [but] actually a private law enforcement
entity." eBay has also felt the sting of tough new laws: On March 28 its
unit PayPal was charged by the Justice Department with violating the
Patriot Act for providing money transfer services to gambling companies.
eBay may be wary of turning down law-enforcement requests, and in this
political climate, being pliant to law enforcement may be sound business
in the sense that it can lead to better treatment from government and
lower administrative costs associated with a company's security division.
There is also the genuine anxiety surrounding the potential consequences
of not following up on a perceived terrorist threat.

Company spokesperson Kevin Pursglove calls eBay "a pioneer when it comes
to customer privacy" and denies that eBay's privacy rules are in any way
influenced by increased concerns about homeland security or that eBay has
been the subject of increased pressure from law enforcement.

The attack on Internet privacy, like all civil liberties, has been growing
since September 11 in the form of the Patriot Act and other federal and
state-based legislation. Many provisions in the new laws undermine online
privacy, and are in keeping with eBay's information-sharing policies. The
Patriot Act allows ISPs to voluntarily hand over all "non-content"
information to law enforcement without the need for a court order or
subpoena. It also expands the category of information that law-enforcement
figures can seek with a simple subpoena (no court review required) to
include, among other things, IP addresses and credit card and bank account
numbers.

While Sullivan's statements are the most extreme examples of the blurring
between law enforcement and private corporations, eBay is not the only
large online companies to have diluted its customer-privacy provisions.
Traditionally, it was standard practice not to reveal customer information
to third parties; now, however, Internet companies are making exceptions
for the government. And massive online vendors from Travelocity to Amazon
are using vague language to give themselves virtually complete discretion
as to what customer information they will turn over to law-enforcement
officials. Whether there will be a consumer backlash against these relaxed
privacy policies remains to be seen.

If so, then companies like eBay may have to question their current
willingness to become quasi-private law-enforcement agencies themselves.
In liberal democracies it is assumed that criminal investigation and law
enforcement are the sole domain of government. But the trend in the United
States, as evidenced by eBay, among many companies, now sees huge
private-sector commercial entities becoming, in effect, agents of law
enforcement. It's an arrangement between government and the private
sector, which Kozlovski calls the "invisible handshake"--Internet
companies promise to open their files to law enforcement, while law
enforcement insures that citizens stay in the dark. This new relationship
raises crucial questions regarding civic life in the United States, and
our rights as citizens and consumers. According to Sullivan, "when someone
uses [eBay's] site and clicks on the 'I agree' button, it is as if he
agrees to let us submit all of his data to the legal authorities..." Is
this more than we bid for?

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Melissa; eBay has ore than its share of bad people. I do quite a bit of
buying on tne "Net. I look at it this way....If you don't do anything
wrong then noone will investigate you. This is to prevent fraud etc. It
has nothing to do with the Bill of Rights. John from N.J

 
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