help .. sold item ,, now winner does not want

hi .. i recently sold 2 v 2003 saturday tickets on ebay .. sold for £255 mad
price i know !!
the winning bidder contacted me after the sale and asked to confirm it was
for 2 weekend v tickets with camping
i replied that it was for saturdays concert and thats what the item listed
said nowhere did it say weekend, sunday or camping
and that she should of asked questions prior to bidding as she bid a few
days before its not like it was a last minute bid..
i said all wins are legally binding and what she planned on doing
how do i stand ??
and also it cost me over £8 in ending fees which i can get back from ebay i
hope
any help
cheers
paul

phatsopaul wrote:
> hi .. i recently sold 2 v 2003 saturday tickets on ebay .. sold for
> £255 mad price i know !!
> the winning bidder contacted me after the sale and asked to confirm
> it was for 2 weekend v tickets with camping
> i replied that it was for saturdays concert and thats what the item
> listed said nowhere did it say weekend, sunday or camping
> and that she should of asked questions prior to bidding as she bid a
> few days before its not like it was a last minute bid..
> i said all wins are legally binding and what she planned on doing
> how do i stand ??
> and also it cost me over £8 in ending fees which i can get back from
> ebay i hope
> any help
> cheers
> paul

Auction number please - it's too easy to say "do this do that" without
seeing both sides of the situation. It's unclear from your posting *which*
weekend event you are talking about - was your auction text as confusing and
garbled?

Post the number here and I'm sure we'll have an unbiased look at it for you,
chew it over, have a flame about what *we'd* have done, ask a lot more
questions ... then refer to you eBay help system which covers just about
everything you could ever want to aks and more.

Cheers,

Gran

Gran wrote:
> phatsopaul wrote:
>> hi .. i recently sold 2 v 2003 saturday tickets on ebay .. sold for
>> £255 mad price i know !!
>> the winning bidder contacted me after the sale and asked to confirm
>> it was for 2 weekend v tickets with camping
>> i replied that it was for saturdays concert and thats what the item
>> listed said nowhere did it say weekend, sunday or camping
>> and that she should of asked questions prior to bidding as she bid a
>> few days before its not like it was a last minute bid..
>> i said all wins are legally binding and what she planned on doing
>> how do i stand ??
>> and also it cost me over £8 in ending fees which i can get back from
>> ebay i hope
>> any help
>> cheers
>> paul
>
> Was it #2183159222 by any chance? Your auction text suggest
> "Red Hot Chili Peppers - David Gray - Queens Of The Stone Age - PJ
> Harvey - Morcheeba Inspiral Carpets - Skin - Ashley Hamilton -
> Underworld - The Coral - Tim Burgess - The Distillers - Michael
> Franti and Spearhead - Haven - The Stands - Paloalto -The Zutons -
> Appleton - Kosheen - Big Brovaz - Mint Royale - Gus Gus - I Am Kloot
> - Just Jack - Many More.... " That's an awful big line up for a
> Saturday only ............... even the link page doesn't make it
> clear who's appearing when.
>
> Gran


across 4 stages though!

lets be honest, there is not much in that Ad that even hints at it being a
whole weekend

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Will wrote:
>> Was it #2183159222 by any chance? Your auction text suggest
>> "Red Hot Chili Peppers - David Gray - Queens Of The Stone Age - PJ
>> Harvey - Morcheeba Inspiral Carpets - Skin - Ashley Hamilton -
>> Underworld - The Coral - Tim Burgess - The Distillers - Michael
>> Franti and Spearhead - Haven - The Stands - Paloalto -The Zutons -
>> Appleton - Kosheen - Big Brovaz - Mint Royale - Gus Gus - I Am Kloot
>> - Just Jack - Many More.... " That's an awful big line up for a
>> Saturday only ............... even the link page doesn't make it
>> clear who's appearing when.
>>
>> Gran
>
>
> across 4 stages though!
>
> lets be honest, there is not much in that Ad that even hints at it
> being a whole weekend
>
> My band ==>

Let's also be honest and say there was nothing that specifically stated this
was a one day entry only no camping ticket.

I would suggest that the *big red oh so cool yet urgent and in yer face*
text on a black background (that exceeds the comfortable 600 X 800
resolution, thereby calling for sideways scrolling) and lots of lovely
pictures did little to calmly and clearly explain what was on offer -
however, the seller wants to know how to proceed next - not to rake over
what may have been or what could have been handled better.

So, does the winning bidder state they are not going to honour the bid? If
that is the case and the seller feels the bidder had adequate opportunity to
ask questions before bidding yet failed to do so, *and* that the auction
clearly and fully explained the nature of the item then I don't see a
problem in following eBay's NPB / FVF routine. However, I feel there may be
some doubt in the seller's mind that everything is as clear-cut as that -
hence the question to the NG.

The seller is hardly a newbie to the eBay game .... some you win, some you
lose. The real question here is "How would Flash Gordon handle this?".

Gran

phatsopaul wrote:
>
> "Will" <smacking_jon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:flCSa.5719$47.801900@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
>
> > >
> > > Was it #2183159222 by any chance? Your auction text suggest
> > > "Red Hot Chili Peppers - David Gray - Queens Of The Stone Age - PJ
> > > Harvey - Morcheeba Inspiral Carpets - Skin - Ashley Hamilton -
> > > Underworld - The Coral - Tim Burgess - The Distillers - Michael
> > > Franti and Spearhead - Haven - The Stands - Paloalto -The Zutons -
> > > Appleton - Kosheen - Big Brovaz - Mint Royale - Gus Gus - I Am Kloot
> > > - Just Jack - Many More.... " That's an awful big line up for a
> > > Saturday only ............... even the link page doesn't make it
> > > clear who's appearing when.
> > >
> > > Gran
> >
> >
> > across 4 stages though!
> >
> > lets be honest, there is not much in that Ad that even hints at it being a
> > whole weekend
> >
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2183159222
>
> sorry should of give link yes it is that one and the bands i listed are
> the saturday bands on 4 diffrent stages ..
> i gave no indication of it being weekend, camping or anything to do with
> sundays show.
> all it says it saturday.
> i have mailed 2nd place .. no answer .. 3rd is winning another ..
> cheers
> paul

i thought you couldn`t sell event tickets on ebay. Its mentioned under
the terms and conditions.
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When right before your eyes it becomes to late.

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"-=ceebs=-" <news_@talk21.com> wrote in message
news:3F1AF9E9.39A@talk21.com...

> i thought you couldn`t sell event tickets on ebay. Its mentioned under
> the terms and conditions.
> --

Is it? I've seen a lot of tickets for sale, and assumed that if Ebay
objected, they'd get auto deleted. Not that I'd buy them, to be honest.

Ali

Trevor wrote:
>
> "-=ceebs=-" <news_@talk21.com> wrote in message > i thought you couldn`t sell
> event tickets on ebay. Its mentioned under
> > the terms and conditions.
>
> Dunno about the T&Cs, but there are 3858 listings under "Tickets" ;-)
>
> Trevor
>
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i think thats for collectors such as expired world cup final tickets etc
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:-=ceebs=-:

Why start to worry at the hands of fate.
When right before your eyes it becomes to late.

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yahoo supercbuk

I hardly think the resolution or what colour the auction is going to make
any difference to any bidder, you just try and make yours stand out from the
crowd.

I would have said more to the original bidder than just ok, and get onto the
second one.

What should you do, claim your fees back, mail the winner and point out that
you need to be able to read english when you bid (not that they would read
it) and ask for the fees for having to list it a second time.

I`ve sold and bought for 3 years on ebay and which ever side your on, you
should know its legally binding and not to bid unless you want. They even
knew they had f**ked up when they wrote there first mail.

I have no time for bidders like that.

Mick


"Gran" <going.nowhere.fast@all> wrote in message
news:MGCSa.4553$wN3.210819@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net...
> Will wrote:
> >> Was it #2183159222 by any chance? Your auction text suggest
> >> "Red Hot Chili Peppers - David Gray - Queens Of The Stone Age - PJ
> >> Harvey - Morcheeba Inspiral Carpets - Skin - Ashley Hamilton -
> >> Underworld - The Coral - Tim Burgess - The Distillers - Michael
> >> Franti and Spearhead - Haven - The Stands - Paloalto -The Zutons -
> >> Appleton - Kosheen - Big Brovaz - Mint Royale - Gus Gus - I Am Kloot
> >> - Just Jack - Many More.... " That's an awful big line up for a
> >> Saturday only ............... even the link page doesn't make it
> >> clear who's appearing when.
> >>
> >> Gran
> >
> >
> > across 4 stages though!
> >
> > lets be honest, there is not much in that Ad that even hints at it
> > being a whole weekend
> >
> > My band ==>
>
> Let's also be honest and say there was nothing that specifically stated
this
> was a one day entry only no camping ticket.
>
> I would suggest that the *big red oh so cool yet urgent and in yer face*
> text on a black background (that exceeds the comfortable 600 X 800
> resolution, thereby calling for sideways scrolling) and lots of lovely
> pictures did little to calmly and clearly explain what was on offer -
> however, the seller wants to know how to proceed next - not to rake over
> what may have been or what could have been handled better.
>
> So, does the winning bidder state they are not going to honour the bid? If
> that is the case and the seller feels the bidder had adequate opportunity
to
> ask questions before bidding yet failed to do so, *and* that the auction
> clearly and fully explained the nature of the item then I don't see a
> problem in following eBay's NPB / FVF routine. However, I feel there may
be
> some doubt in the seller's mind that everything is as clear-cut as that -
> hence the question to the NG.
>
> The seller is hardly a newbie to the eBay game .... some you win, some you
> lose. The real question here is "How would Flash Gordon handle this?".
>
> Gran
>
>
>

"Peter Parry" <peter@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote in message
news:4c3mhvg5p6qe024690ki4nvju1hh5qp1u7@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:49:24 +0100, "phatsopaul"
> <phatsopaul@removespam@nthellworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >i said all wins are legally binding and what she planned on doing
> >how do i stand ??
>
> As ebay isn't an auction and you appear by the volume of sales to be
> a trader you might like to start with the Distance Selling
> Regulations. (http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2000/20002334.htm)
>
> --
> Peter Parry.
> http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/

Gran
im sorry you don't like my style of sales page .. but i find a nice page
will sell better than a plain sale
i was asking the question more on the terms of . does the buyer legally have
to pay for the tickets ..
i know i can get end fee back via NPB .. the page i did was clear to me it
was a Saturday ticket sale and the buyer bid a few days before the end
i even cancelled a bid on last day as bidder realised it was a 1 day ticket
he bid on..
its not my problem people don't read sales properly . or bother to email
about item before bidding
its just a pain in the ass when u come to finalize a deal only to be told .
sorry i thought it was something else
paul

phatsopaul wrote:
> Gran
> im sorry you don't like my style of sales page .. but i find a nice
> page will sell better than a plain sale
> i was asking the question more on the terms of . does the buyer
> legally have to pay for the tickets ..
> i know i can get end fee back via NPB .. the page i did was clear to
> me it was a Saturday ticket sale and the buyer bid a few days before
> the end i even cancelled a bid on last day as bidder realised it was
> a 1 day ticket he bid on..
> its not my problem people don't read sales properly . or bother to
> email about item before bidding
> its just a pain in the ass when u come to finalize a deal only to be
> told . sorry i thought it was something else
> paul

Just hope you get it sorted out OK. Into every life a little rain must fall,
but it's usually followed by rainbows.
Gran

My opinion is neither copyrighted nor trademarked, and it's
price competitive. If you like, I'll trade for one of yours.