For all of you who send parcels..

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:45:19 +0100, "SuperLeeds"
<iloveleeds@leeds.com> wrote:

>Sorry but you argument doesn't hold and Ebayers who massively overcharge on
>postage give the rest of us a bad name. The real point here is that p&p
>should mean p&p not trying to claw your listing fees back by over charging
>on postage. No way should anyone charge for a trip to the Post Office or
>their time to wrap a parcel! At the end of the day I wanted the item (even
>though it turned out a duffer) and I was aware of the charges in advance, so
>I hold my hands up on this one and say I knew what I was doing. When I sell,
>I try to charge accurate postage and refund any excess as is the etiquette
>in the hobby I take part in - selling footie programmes. I may add a few
>pence for a padded envelope or a parcel to cover the cost of tape etc but
>that's about it.

you obviously have not read or understood what we had discussed
before. the buyer has every right to charge as much as they like that
reimburses them of the entire cost of sending an item to you the
buyer. this includes whole packaging costs as well as whatever it
costs for them to get the item to a post office and send it of to you.

at the end of the day if you do not like or agree to this then stop
using ebay.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:06:54 +0100, "C-Beeby"
<tweenies@northamptonshire.co.uk> wrote:


>> I used to call is P&P in my auctions, now I call it Shipping & Handling
>> because people who thought like you do did not stop to think that as a
>> company I have staff. Staff like to be paid for the work they do such as
>> packing items for shipment and as that is a cost I incur when having to
>ship
>> items out I pass on a part of that to the bidder. If they do not want to
>pay
>> it they are welcome to collect in person - that way I will not have to pay
>> staff to pack the item up!
>
>agreed, my staff is ME and I pay ME for my time...

i do not think that anything said by you or niel is in anyway
improper. as sellers who run professional service and offer the buyers
a unique product and excellent customer service cheapskate buyers like
the original poster are a joke. if you want good quality products to
get to you then you have to pay for it. if not then don't use ebay and
buy your stuff from the highstreet.

In article <bfjt7c$gb3$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, iloveleeds@leeds.com
says...
> Well actually the shirt wasn't a new one (and how did you know how good my
> deal was? Are you the seller?) and it certainly wasn't as per description.
>
> Sorry but you argument doesn't hold and Ebayers who massively overcharge on
> postage give the rest of us a bad name. The real point here is that p&p
> should mean p&p not trying to claw your listing fees back by over charging
> on postage. No way should anyone charge for a trip to the Post Office or
> their time to wrap a parcel!

Why? A round trip to my post office is an hour. I take about 20 minutes
to wrap something.

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conor_turton@hotmail.com
ICQ:31909763
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"Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1988acdb6f336377989bf7@news.theplanet.net ...

> Why? A round trip to my post office is an hour. I take about 20 minutes
> to wrap something.
>
20 minutes to wrap something - what are you selling, live dogs?

Feathers

In article <bfm798$gcv7s$1@ID-198887.news.uni-berlin.de>,
tweenies@northamptonshire.co.uk says...
> "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1988acdb6f336377989bf7@news.theplanet.net ...
>
> > Why? A round trip to my post office is an hour. I take about 20 minutes
> > to wrap something.
> >
> 20 minutes to wrap something - what are you selling, live dogs?
>
No, I don't just wrap them in a carrier bag and shove them in the post.
I bubblewrap them then put them in a box and fill the box with
polystyrene packing then wrap the box in brown paper. Sometimes I'll
have to make a box if it's an odd size.

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conor_turton@hotmail.com
ICQ:31909763
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"Ivor Gleek" <ivor@25fps.NOfreeserve.SPAMco.uk> wrote in message
news:1fyrzqm.i38vw1r95n8sN%ivor@25fps.NOfreeserve. SPAMco.uk...
>
>
> I'm disgusted with the packing of a small computer item I got yesterday.
> Actually there was no packing, no paper, nothing. Just the item in it's
> box for everyone to see, with a bit of a sellotape and a document pocket
> stuck to the outside. The equipment was as described but the box
> obviously got knocked about in the post. Actual postage was £2.19. I
> paid £5 P&P and am still trying to work out where the rest of that went
> in packaging. Incidentally the seller has over 500 pos feedback but I
> feel like giving him a neg. What do you think?
>

Have a grump at him first, gently, and see what happens. Then I'd leave a
neutral at worst, or a grumpy positive, if you still aren't happy.

Ali

Ali Hopkins <fn62@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

> "Ivor Gleek" <ivor@25fps.NOfreeserve.SPAMco.uk> wrote in message
> news:1fyrzqm.i38vw1r95n8sN%ivor@25fps.NOfreeserve. SPAMco.uk...
> >
> >
> > I'm disgusted with the packing of a small computer item I got yesterday.
> > Actually there was no packing, no paper, nothing. Just the item in it's
> > box for everyone to see, with a bit of a sellotape and a document pocket
> > stuck to the outside. The equipment was as described but the box
> > obviously got knocked about in the post. Actual postage was £2.19. I
> > paid £5 P&P and am still trying to work out where the rest of that went
> > in packaging. Incidentally the seller has over 500 pos feedback but I
> > feel like giving him a neg. What do you think?
> >
>
> Have a grump at him first, gently, and see what happens. Then I'd leave a
> neutral at worst, or a grumpy positive, if you still aren't happy.
>
> Ali

OK I've now had a serious grump at him. Stay tuned.

Ivor

In article <1fyrzqm.i38vw1r95n8sN%ivor@25fps.NOfreeserve.SPAM co.uk>,
ivor@25fps.NOfreeserve.SPAMco.uk says...
> Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <bfpist$1kqkq$1@ID-97728.news.uni-berlin.de>, fn62
> > @dial.pipex.com says...
> > >
> > > "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:MPG.198a5efd3b8b5042989c11@news.theplanet.net ...
> > >
> > > > No, I don't just wrap them in a carrier bag and shove them in the post.
> > > > I bubblewrap them then put them in a box and fill the box with
> > > > polystyrene packing then wrap the box in brown paper. Sometimes I'll
> > > > have to make a box if it's an odd size.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'd buy from you. Just what I look for.
> > >
> > LOL, the last thing buyers have to complain about is packing.
>
> I'm disgusted with the packing of a small computer item I got yesterday.
> Actually there was no packing, no paper, nothing. Just the item in it's
> box for everyone to see, with a bit of a sellotape and a document pocket
> stuck to the outside. The equipment was as described but the box
> obviously got knocked about in the post. Actual postage was £2.19. I
> paid £5 P&P and am still trying to work out where the rest of that went
> in packaging. Incidentally the seller has over 500 pos feedback but I
> feel like giving him a neg. What do you think?
>
Neg it. Say "Although goods as described, packaging was crap.

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conor_turton@hotmail.com
ICQ:31909763
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"Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <1fyrzqm.i38vw1r95n8sN%ivor@25fps.NOfreeserve.SPAM co.uk>,
ivor@25fps.NOfreeserve.SPAMco.uk says...
> Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm disgusted with the packing of a small computer item I got yesterday.
> Actually there was no packing, no paper, nothing. Just the item in it's
> box for everyone to see, with a bit of a sellotape and a document pocket
> stuck to the outside. The equipment was as described but the box
> obviously got knocked about in the post. Actual postage was £2.19. I
> paid £5 P&P and am still trying to work out where the rest of that went
> in packaging. Incidentally the seller has over 500 pos feedback but I
> feel like giving him a neg. What do you think?
>
Neg it. Say "Although goods as described, packaging was crap.

would suggest substituting "rubbish" for "crap"

If the seller could convince eBay that you'd left an obscenity in a feedback
they would probably remove it.

Feathers

Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote:

> In article <1fyrzqm.i38vw1r95n8sN%ivor@25fps.NOfreeserve.SPAM co.uk>,
> ivor@25fps.NOfreeserve.SPAMco.uk says...

> > I'm disgusted with the packing of a small computer item I got yesterday.
> > Actually there was no packing, no paper, nothing. Just the item in it's
> > box for everyone to see, with a bit of a sellotape and a document pocket
> > stuck to the outside. The equipment was as described but the box
> > obviously got knocked about in the post. Actual postage was £2.19. I
> > paid £5 P&P and am still trying to work out where the rest of that went
> > in packaging. Incidentally the seller has over 500 pos feedback but I
> > feel like giving him a neg. What do you think?
> >
> Neg it. Say "Although goods as described, packaging was crap.

Seller replied with offer of full refund on return of goods, which I am
doing.

Ivor