ebay Bad Trader Warning!

Trading as Bid-up
Name: John D Bold
City: Rhos on Sea
State: Conwy
Country: United Kingdom
Phone: 07900831366

Done a runner with my money, ignores emails, won't answer phone. Square
Trade unable to get anywhere with this trader.
Now been de-registered with ebay.

lucozade wrote:
> Trading as Bid-up

> Done a runner with my money, ignores emails, won't answer phone. Square
> Trade unable to get anywhere with this trader.
> Now been de-registered with ebay.
>


I'm sorry, but I totally disagree with posting such warnings
and no, I am not he or a present or potential rogue Ebayer.
But I would say that anyway, wouldn't I?

If the guy is a rogue, he is probably already back on Ebay
with a different account name and address descriptor. So
your posting will have achieved zero. He probably got a payg
SIM and used it just for this so couldn't care less.

If the guy isn't a rogue, then there are plenty of reasons
for not answering emails or calls. He could be in hospital.
He could have rushed to his aged mother's bedside, in
darkest Sutton Coldfield. His house could have caught fire.
He could be a father trying to get access to a child and is
currently chained to a tower crane. He could have criticised
Bliar and be on his way to Gitmo. He could be a reservist
and be disarming land mines as I write.

In this case, publishing his details could cause him and,
his family, deep distress.

So, ok, I sympathise that you feel you need to do
/something/ about being, perhaps, ripped off. But I just
don't think that this is the way to do it.

hi m8
this is always a risk when buying off net ,was it a large amount of money.
basically you have yo put it down to experience ,you wont get money back now
but you will get flamed for posting details .
steve

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"Palindrâ~»me" <sb382638@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:2jl4deF12igdsU1@uni-berlin.de...
> lucozade wrote:
> > Trading as Bid-up
>
> > Done a runner with my money, ignores emails, won't answer phone. Square
> > Trade unable to get anywhere with this trader.
> > Now been de-registered with ebay.
> >
>
>
> I'm sorry, but I totally disagree with posting such warnings
> and no, I am not he or a present or potential rogue Ebayer.
> But I would say that anyway, wouldn't I?
>
> If the guy is a rogue, he is probably already back on Ebay
> with a different account name and address descriptor. So
> your posting will have achieved zero. He probably got a payg
> SIM and used it just for this so couldn't care less.
>
> If the guy isn't a rogue, then there are plenty of reasons
> for not answering emails or calls. He could be in hospital.
> He could have rushed to his aged mother's bedside, in
> darkest Sutton Coldfield. His house could have caught fire.
> He could be a father trying to get access to a child and is
> currently chained to a tower crane. He could have criticised
> Bliar and be on his way to Gitmo. He could be a reservist
> and be disarming land mines as I write.
>
> In this case, publishing his details could cause him and,
> his family, deep distress.
>
> So, ok, I sympathise that you feel you need to do
> /something/ about being, perhaps, ripped off. But I just
> don't think that this is the way to do it.
>
>

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:14:56 +0100, "lucozade"
<Securitypatch@µsoft.is.invalid> wrote:

>Trading as Bid-up
>Name: John D Bold
>City: Rhos on Sea
>State: Conwy
>Country: United Kingdom
>Phone: 07900831366
>
>Done a runner with my money, ignores emails, won't answer phone. Square
>Trade unable to get anywhere with this trader.
>Now been de-registered with ebay.
>
How much was it for ?
have you considered County Court action ?
I'm sueing someone from eBay at the moment for 56 quid, who sold me
something that didn't work and refused a refund.


__


Your rights end, where my rights begin.

Tone wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:14:56 +0100, "lucozade"
> <Securitypatch@µsoft.is.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>Trading as Bid-up
>>Name: John D Bold
>>City: Rhos on Sea
>>State: Conwy
>>Country: United Kingdom
>>Phone: 07900831366
>>
>>Done a runner with my money, ignores emails, won't answer phone. Square
>>Trade unable to get anywhere with this trader.
>>Now been de-registered with ebay.
>>
>
> How much was it for ?
> have you considered County Court action ?
> I'm sueing someone from eBay at the moment for 56 quid, who sold me
> something that didn't work and refused a refund.
>
>
> __
>
>
> Your rights end, where my rights begin.
>

What's wrong with using ebay's resultion procedures?
You can get back all but £15 of the cost this way.

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:04:16 +0100, Reestit Mutton <not@this.address>
wrote:

>>
>
>What's wrong with using ebay's resultion procedures?
>You can get back all but £15 of the cost this way.
>
>RM

Because they will attempt to make it as difficult as they can.
Despite ebay.uk.co being a UK registered company you have to send the
complaint in to their US address. It takes months.
You will then only get anything if you have a no negative feedback.
They try to wriggle out of everything as does Paypal.
They tried it with me 2 years ago and I issued County Court action
against them. They settled out of court for my full amount.


__
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Follow your spirit; and, upon this charge, Cry God for Harry, England and St George!'.

Jimbo <me9@privacy.net> wrote:

>Last time I used eBay insurance scheme - I sent the documents as
>requested to Switzerland, and I had the refund (less the £15) within
>10 days ! Also had regular emails from eBay giving me updates on my
>claim !

How many years ago was that? EBay seems to have gone downhill since
they bought Paypal.

>
>Admittedly PayPal can be awkward swines, so instead of doing a
>chargeback via them I chargeback via my CreditCard - that works just
>fine !

Paypal/Ebay seems to deny all claims automatically if you are shipped
anything. You really have to push your Credit Card company hard to
get them to do a chargeback against Paypal.

Don't rely on Paypal Buyer Protection, that is as worthless as a $3
bill!

Ak

"Jimbo" <me9@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:lv0bd0lv0vbifmk0il220ncr6mip04hcap@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:15:28 +0100, Tone <tone@antb.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Also I for one agree with the original poster - name & shame them !
> Yes - they may have set-up a new account with a different name, but
> they're probably still at the same address.

They can't change their real name either if they accept cheques.

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:35:47 +0000 (UTC), Jimbo <me9@privacy.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:15:28 +0100, Tone <tone@antb.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>Because they will attempt to make it as difficult as they can.
>>Despite ebay.uk.co being a UK registered company you have to send the
>>complaint in to their US address. It takes months.
>>You will then only get anything if you have a no negative feedback.
>>They try to wriggle out of everything as does Paypal.
>>They tried it with me 2 years ago and I issued County Court action
>>against them. They settled out of court for my full amount.
>>
>>
>>__
>>'I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips, Straining upon the start. The game's afoot:
>>Follow your spirit; and, upon this charge, Cry God for Harry, England and St George!'.
>>
>>
>
>Really ?
>
>Last time I used eBay insurance scheme - I sent the documents as
>requested to Switzerland, and I had the refund (less the £15) within
>10 days ! Also had regular emails from eBay giving me updates on my
>claim !
>
>Admittedly PayPal can be awkward swines, so instead of doing a
>chargeback via them I chargeback via my CreditCard - that works just
>fine !
>
>Also I for one agree with the original poster - name & shame them !
>Yes - they may have set-up a new account with a different name, but
>they're probably still at the same address.
>
>Jim

Must have changed in the last 2 years then, BUT I did have a look at
the online claimform and the address is STILL in the USA ??

They took 3 months to settle my quite simple claim and also cancelled
my account during that time as they didn't like me hassling them.

I would now advise anyone to just send County Court summonses to their
London address listed at the Business Registry website




__

Your rights end, where my rights begin.

I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good, either.

"lucozade" <Securitypatch@µsoft.is.invalid> wrote in message
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> Trading as Bid-up
> Name: John D Bold
> City: Rhos on Sea
> State: Conwy
> Country: United Kingdom
> Phone: 07900831366
>
> Done a runner with my money, ignores emails, won't answer phone. Square
> Trade unable to get anywhere with this trader.
> Now been de-registered with ebay.
>

"Done a runner with my money" I just love British expressions.