Example of Ebay SCAM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2580505498

"Zorro_2K" <Chief_Billy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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And on a much smaller scale ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=36 031


http://www.lakeside.com/Details.asp?...MTOT=231&CAT=1

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I'm fairly new to all this...........what makes a scam stand out from a
genuine trade?

(Serious question)

t-a-a wrote:

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I don't know if these are correctly called "scams", just capitalism at
work. There are tons of cases were the same item is sold at retail
stores for various prices- it's up to the consumer to "shop around" if
they care about price. They built a big Barnes and Nobles next to my
local cd store. B&N sells cd's at list price ($17-19) and my local
sells them at discount ($11-13) but people still buy at B&N, even tho'
they could save $4 or so by walking 50 feet.

I was looking at some teak outdoor furniture at a local shop and found a
lounge for around $1700- way too much. Checked the internet and found
THE SAME chair, being sold by the manufacturer for $600! And it's not
unusual for retailers to sell things at a percentage off, with fine
print that notes the item NEVER sold at the starting price.

Certainly, tho', eBay seller do tend to exaggerate (i.e., every
collectible is "rare") but if you believe 'em, it's not necessarily a
scam, is it? A rip-off, deceptive, yeah. Scam implies fraud.

Dawn Killick wrote:


> I'm fairly new to all this...........what makes a scam stand out from a
> genuine trade?
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Serious but simple answer- before you buy anything, you should know what
it usually sells for. If it's a new item, that's usually quite easy on
the internet. For old, used and collectibles, it's a bit more difficult
but there's sources on the 'net for just about ANY area of collectible.
(A search of eBay auctions for the same item is a good place to
start.) Certainly you CAN'T trust a seller's opinion of "rarity" or
"worth" if you don't know yourself.

For used books, for instance, I always check this site to see what a
book goes for (and prices vary WIDELY in this field) before I bid and I
can often find the book, in better conditon and less money from a listed
dealer-

http://www.abebooks.com/

Sure, you can get ripped off on eBay, just as you can buying from a
garage sale, classified ad or down at the mall. But "scam" is the wrong
word, since that implies fraud and illegality. Sad to say, there's
nothing illegal about selling something for way more than it's worth or
it goes for elsewhere.

Now, the "shipping and handling" thing, THAT'S pretty close to fraud.
When they charge me $3.95 for "shipping" and throw it in a 37 cents
business envelope, that sucks. Shipping should be actual cost and
"handling" should be part of doing business, since ALL items, retail or
mail order are "handled". Does the department store tack on EXTRA
charges because they have to pay the electric bill or pay someone to
unload the truck and stack the stuff on shelves?

There are handling costs involved but I generally agree S&H on eBay is
outrageous. I love when they ship from their postage meter at work.

I also buy CDs so I love it when they put "OOP or OUT OF PRINT." Then
they want some high price because of this. Evidently they don't use eBay
cause there are 25 exact copies of that Out of Print CD selling at the
same time.

Like that "Amy Grant - Heart In Motion" CD. I can get that for 1.99 at
ANY used CD store in Chicago. Everywhere you go there is that CD by Amy
Grant.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=43 308

look close at the sellers feedback all items $.99 to $1.00 that give
feedback for payment

he's back every few days with a new id

nope,
Look a little more carefully. He's simply bought a load of items from different sellers, all of which were a $1 or less. He was the purchaser.

"Stanley Reynolds" <nospam_stanley_reynolds@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:jZadndEiksGok4vdRVn-sw@pghconnect.com...
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tegory=43 308
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> look close at the sellers feedback all items $.99 to $1.00 that give
> feedback for payment
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> he's back every few days with a new id
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"Michael A. Sewell" <dontbother@blackhole.com> wrote in message
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nope,
Look a little more carefully. He's simply bought a load of items from
different sellers, all of which were a $1 or less. He was the purchaser.

yep, you should buy some they are cheap ;-) It's still a scam he has no
cards but will be back to catch someone in a hurry that just looks at the
numbers not the items he bought.

Absolutely.
Although I have to say that at this point, he's only guilty of bumping up his ratings as quick as possible. We have yet to see to what purpose he uses his ratings.

Worth keeping an eye on though :o)

Michael

"Stanley Reynolds" <nospam_stanley_reynolds@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8r-dnQL-P-bZGIvdRVn-vw@pghconnect.com...
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> "Michael A. Sewell" <dontbother@blackhole.com> wrote in message
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> nope,
> Look a little more carefully. He's simply bought a load of items from
> different sellers, all of which were a $1 or less. He was the purchaser.
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> yep, you should buy some they are cheap ;-) It's still a scam he has no
> cards but will be back to catch someone in a hurry that just looks at the
> numbers not the items he bought.
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