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"M. David Krauss" <webmaster@wiredfrog.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:01:34 -0800
> "cr88192" <cr88192@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > I dont lump C & C++ together. Thats lumping
> > > something good (C) with someone's bad idea
> > > (C++). I use C and refuse to use C++.
> > >
> > > Object-Oriented Programming? They don't call
> > > it OOPs for nothing!
> >
> > the way c++ did oop it is not all that great,
> > but others have done better... java and c#
> > borrowed the c++ version of objects, but not all
> > are like that.
>
> The thing about C++ is that hardcore OOP people
> tend to criticize it as a poor attempt at an OOP
> extension of C, without realizing that it actually
> *isn't* an attempt at an OOP extension of C.
> That's a part of it, but not the whole picture.
>
> If you want a object oriented C, then you should
> look at Objective-C, which is all in all pretty
> sweet.
>
> You won't realize the full benefits of C++ until
> you see that it is actually meant to extend C with
> generic programing principles, operator
> overriding, and other features. The
> object-orientation is just icing on the cake, and
> in many ways takes a back seat to concerns such as
> keeping it "close to the machine" (or trying
> to) and allowing for all those other neat
> extensions.
>
> Of course, I'm not advocating, I'm not saying that
> you will adopt C++ as your favorite language once
> you "see the light"; just that it's incorrect to
> criticize its somewhat clumsy object-orientation
> without understanding that that just isn't the
> point.
>
> Personally, I admire the purer OOP languages for
> their elegance, but find in practice that I'm more
> likely to actually use C++.
>
> Anyhow, this thread is getting long for one that
> is cross posted to four groups. I hope it's not
> annoying anyone.
>
> -Matthew
>