Ram questions

Well, sadly I'm thinking about replacing one of my trusted KT7 boards with
a DDR model. Don't have much experiences (0) with the newer rams. Been
doing some research and I'm looking at Buffalo tech. Either PC3200 or
PC3700. Both of these appear to use the Winbond chips and reviews of the
PC3700 look pretty good. Since they both use the same winbond chip I might
go with the PC3200 if the price diff is too large. Anyone have direct
experience with either of these, or modules that use the 5B winbond chips.
Same chips should perform about the same on any module.

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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

"Wes Newell" <w.newell@SICKOFSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
newsan.2003.06.27.06.17.34.887561@SICKOFSPAMveri zon.net...
> Well, sadly I'm thinking about replacing one of my trusted KT7 boards with
> a DDR model. Don't have much experiences (0) with the newer rams. Been
> doing some research and I'm looking at Buffalo tech. Either PC3200 or
> PC3700. Both of these appear to use the Winbond chips and reviews of the
> PC3700 look pretty good. Since they both use the same winbond chip I might
> go with the PC3200 if the price diff is too large. Anyone have direct
> experience with either of these, or modules that use the 5B winbond chips.
> Same chips should perform about the same on any module.
>
> --
> Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

I was in the same boat as you about a month ago.
I went for Corsair XMS3500 to go with my Epox 8RGA+ - I dont think it was
worth the extra money. In hindsight I should have bought Twinmos 3200 with
Winbond chips - much much cheaper and available from www.komplett.co.uk.
Many people at www.xtremesystems.org have managed over 230FSB with these
modules on the NF7-S v2.0.
I have no personaly experience with Twinmos (w/ Winbond) ram, but many
highly recommend it and judging by the speeds this ram is getting, it looks
excellent value!

In article <pan.2003.06.27.06.17.34.887561@SICKOFSPAMverizon. net>,
w.newell@SICKOFSPAMverizon.net says...
> Well, sadly I'm thinking about replacing one of my trusted KT7 boards with
> a DDR model. Don't have much experiences (0) with the newer rams. Been
> doing some research and I'm looking at Buffalo tech. Either PC3200 or
> PC3700. Both of these appear to use the Winbond chips and reviews of the
> PC3700 look pretty good. Since they both use the same winbond chip I might
> go with the PC3200 if the price diff is too large. Anyone have direct
> experience with either of these, or modules that use the 5B winbond chips.
> Same chips should perform about the same on any module.

I don't know anything about Buffalo tech memory. But the technique used
in assembling a memory strip can be just as important to the quality and
stability of a strip as the chips are. Take Samsung chips for example.
Mushkin has built some top notch DDR strips using Samsung chips that are
rock solid and overclock very well, while there are lots of generic
strips sold built using the exact same Samsung chips that are very
problematic and unstable at there advertised speeds, and often have to
be underclocked to get them to run reliably.

Doug

would maybe consider some Twinmoss with the 5 ns windbond chios on it pc3200
cas2.5 sticks if not going the highend ram route.


Neil


"Wes Newell" <w.newell@SICKOFSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
newsan.2003.06.27.06.17.34.887561@SICKOFSPAMveri zon.net...
> Well, sadly I'm thinking about replacing one of my trusted KT7 boards with
> a DDR model. Don't have much experiences (0) with the newer rams. Been
> doing some research and I'm looking at Buffalo tech. Either PC3200 or
> PC3700. Both of these appear to use the Winbond chips and reviews of the
> PC3700 look pretty good. Since they both use the same winbond chip I might
> go with the PC3200 if the price diff is too large. Anyone have direct
> experience with either of these, or modules that use the 5B winbond chips.
> Same chips should perform about the same on any module.
>
> --
> Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:51:52 +0100, BoroLad wrote:

> What MOBO are you getting then?
>
No frills oem SIS746FX chipset. Actually I'm not even sure who made it.
Here's the link to it. Well, I should have looked better. It's an asrock.

http://www.asrockamerica.com/Products/K7S8X.htm

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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

asrock is asus's cheapy end




Neil
"Wes Newell" <w.newell@SICKOFSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
newsan.2003.06.29.11.46.55.894984@SICKOFSPAMveri zon.net...
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:51:52 +0100, BoroLad wrote:
>
> > What MOBO are you getting then?
> >
> No frills oem SIS746FX chipset. Actually I'm not even sure who made it.
> Here's the link to it. Well, I should have looked better. It's an asrock.
>
> http://www.asrockamerica.com/Products/K7S8X.htm
>
> --
> Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html

In article <pan.2003.06.29.11.46.55.894984@SICKOFSPAMverizon. net>,
w.newell@SICKOFSPAMverizon.net says...
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:51:52 +0100, BoroLad wrote:

> > What MOBO are you getting then?

> No frills oem SIS746FX chipset. Actually I'm not even sure who made it.
> Here's the link to it. Well, I should have looked better. It's an asrock.

> http://www.asrockamerica.com/Products/K7S8X.htm

Well it depends what you paid for it, did you buy just the MOBO, or a
package and most cheapend MOBO's will respond to tweaking if the (1)PSU
is 'clean' enough and the (2) memory is good and the *(3) maker does not
stray too far from the 'reference' design.

http://www.sis.com/ddr/ddr400.htm
http://download.sis.com/sisdlc/driver_select.jsp
http://www.sis.com/news/746reviews.htm

Whilst ASUS don't even figure in the O/C scene the nVIDIA nForce2 is
top-of-the-pops so it's a good starting point. Maybe you can do what
ASUS counld not. Give it a go WES

BoroLad

On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 08:40:32 -0400, Frank Hagan wrote:


> "Wes Newell" <w.newell@SICKOFSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
> newsan.2003.06.29.11.46.55.894984@SICKOFSPAMveri zon.net...
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 07:51:52 +0100, BoroLad wrote:
>>
>> > What MOBO are you getting then?
>> >
>> No frills oem SIS746FX chipset. Actually I'm not even sure who made it.
>> Here's the link to it. Well, I should have looked better. It's an
>> asrock.
>>
>> http://www.asrockamerica.com/Products/K7S8X.htm
>>
>> --
>> Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html
>
> Wow! $58 at NewEgg. A year ago a board like that would have cost over
> $100! Let us know how it works out.
>
And the reason I couldn't pass this up was I got an 11 bay 300watt mid
tower case and an 1800+ cpu w/hHSF with it, all for $52. Shipping was very
high though, $48. Still $100 delivered to the door for this is hard to
beat as long as it all works. I haven't order the ram yet, but I will
probably get that from newegg once I get a notice that the system shipped.
I ordered this last 6/23 and still haven't got a shipping notice yet.

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Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.html