Halo 2-disapointment(spoilers)

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The ending of Halo 2 was a complete disappointment, actually the ending was
simply dumb. As for the game being short, I'm not what most would consider
a hardcore gamer and even I found this game way to short. There was no
reason to use some of the weapons(sniper rifle) like in Halo 1. Most levels
were not well designed and switching back and forth between the
Arbitrator(sp?) and MC just sucked and broke the continuity of the story.

On 11/29/04 8:00 PM, in article 2vQqd.369286$Pl.169037@pd7tw1no, "None40"
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> The ending of Halo 2 was a complete disappointment, actually the ending was
> simply dumb. As for the game being short, I'm not what most would consider
> a hardcore gamer and even I found this game way to short. There was no
> reason to use some of the weapons(sniper rifle) like in Halo 1. Most levels
> were not well designed and switching back and forth between the
> Arbitrator(sp?) and MC just sucked and broke the continuity of the story.
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I liked the ending. What's so dumb about it? It ends the threat of Tartarus
and the rebel Brutes, finishes the war on Delta Halo (which was pretty much
what the game was about), and leaves a great buildup for Halo 3 without, in
my opinion, being a disappointing cliffhanger. If you want the game to be
long, play it on Legendary. Easy and Normal are intentionally short, so you
can beat it quick and learn the plot. With most games, casual gamers give up
and never find the ending. The levels were far better designed than the
cut-and-paste mazes of the first game, and the Arbiter is really cool. The
MC is just a mindless soldier who takes orders from anyone. The Arbiter
questions authority without being told to.

"Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
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> > The ending of Halo 2 was a complete disappointment, actually the ending
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> > simply dumb. As for the game being short, I'm not what most would
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> > a hardcore gamer and even I found this game way to short. There was no
> > reason to use some of the weapons(sniper rifle) like in Halo 1. Most
levels
> > were not well designed and switching back and forth between the
> > Arbitrator(sp?) and MC just sucked and broke the continuity of the
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> I liked the ending. What's so dumb about it?
It was a simply a Boss battle ala Nintendo. It really reminded me of SMB 2.
Of course if your not old enough to remember that game then maybe it seemed
okay to you.

It ends the threat of Tartarus
> and the rebel Brutes, finishes the war on Delta Halo (which was pretty
much
> what the game was about), and leaves a great buildup for Halo 3 without,
in
> my opinion, being a disappointing cliffhanger. If you want the game to be
> long, play it on Legendary. Easy and Normal are intentionally short, so
you
> can beat it quick and learn the plot.
You may have a point here, perhaps they did dumb down the AI, I'll try it on
Heroic-as a matter of fact I just did a quick search and you're right it
seems they've made each setting a little easier. So Heroic in Halo 2 may
actually be closer to what was normal in Halo 1.

Also I think your're right in that Halo 2 is just a teaser to buy Halo 3
which I will buy along with the new console :-). The ending still could
have better than a boss battle. Maybe it was a homage to old school games.
I hope I didn't come across as implying Halo is crap it's not. I mean
disappointing Halo is still way better than most games out there.

On 11/30/04 1:22 AM, in article ndVqd.381088$nl.232624@pd7tw3no, "None40"
<noway@none.com> wrote:

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> "Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
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>> On 11/29/04 8:00 PM, in article 2vQqd.369286$Pl.169037@pd7tw1no, "None40"
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>>> The ending of Halo 2 was a complete disappointment, actually the ending
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>>> simply dumb. As for the game being short, I'm not what most would
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>>> a hardcore gamer and even I found this game way to short. There was no
>>> reason to use some of the weapons(sniper rifle) like in Halo 1. Most
> levels
>>> were not well designed and switching back and forth between the
>>> Arbitrator(sp?) and MC just sucked and broke the continuity of the
> story.
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>> I liked the ending. What's so dumb about it?
> It was a simply a Boss battle ala Nintendo. It really reminded me of SMB 2.
> Of course if your not old enough to remember that game then maybe it seemed
> okay to you.
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The boss fight with Tartarus could've been better, I agree. They needed to
have more enemies, so it wasn't just like a one-on-one fight in what seemed
suspiciously like a circular arena, despite having three levels and a
grav-lift.

> It ends the threat of Tartarus
>> and the rebel Brutes, finishes the war on Delta Halo (which was pretty
> much
>> what the game was about), and leaves a great buildup for Halo 3 without,
> in
>> my opinion, being a disappointing cliffhanger. If you want the game to be
>> long, play it on Legendary. Easy and Normal are intentionally short, so
> you
>> can beat it quick and learn the plot.
> You may have a point here, perhaps they did dumb down the AI, I'll try it on
> Heroic-as a matter of fact I just did a quick search and you're right it
> seems they've made each setting a little easier. So Heroic in Halo 2 may
> actually be closer to what was normal in Halo 1.
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> Also I think your're right in that Halo 2 is just a teaser to buy Halo 3
> which I will buy along with the new console :-). The ending still could
> have better than a boss battle. Maybe it was a homage to old school games.
> I hope I didn't come across as implying Halo is crap it's not. I mean
> disappointing Halo is still way better than most games out there.
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Halo 2 seems to end where everyone thought it would start. Now the earth is
under siege by the Covenant, now it's flaming and crackling with nuclear
explosions, now the war is really about to begin, which everyone thought
would be happening at the beginning. If you ask me, Halo 3 is what everyone
thought Halo 2 would be.

"Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
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I'm not sure that any of this has really been resolved. Tartarus is dead,
but we have no indication that the Brute rebellion is over. The war on
Delta Halo isn't really over since the flood seem to have taken control of
it and many of the ships in the vicinity.

"None40" <noway@none.com> wrote in message
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Halo:CE- 10 levels.
Halo2- 15 levels.

Short?

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> were not well designed and switching back and forth between the
> Arbitrator(sp?) and MC just sucked and broke the continuity of the story.
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"YYZedd" <yyzedd@NOSPAMmindspring.com> wrote in message news:<ALlrd.8653$NU3.4703@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net>...

> Halo:CE- 10 levels.
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Anyone who says Halo 2 is shorter than 1 is either full of **** or
they don't have a very good memory of beating Halo 1. Halo 2 is
*significantly* larger (and not as boring or repetative, either).

-Eric

"None40" <noway@none.com> wrote in message news:<ndVqd.381088$nl.232624@pd7tw3no>...
> "Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
> news:BDD132F2.19CE%darkeagle@lisco.com...
> > On 11/29/04 8:00 PM, in article 2vQqd.369286$Pl.169037@pd7tw1no, "None40"
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> > > simply dumb. As for the game being short, I'm not what most would
> consider
> > > a hardcore gamer and even I found this game way to short. There was no
> > > reason to use some of the weapons(sniper rifle) like in Halo 1. Most
> levels
> > > were not well designed and switching back and forth between the
> > > Arbitrator(sp?) and MC just sucked and broke the continuity of the
> story.
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> > I liked the ending. What's so dumb about it?
> It was a simply a Boss battle ala Nintendo. It really reminded me of SMB 2.
> Of course if your not old enough to remember that game then maybe it seemed
> okay to you.
>
> It ends the threat of Tartarus
> > and the rebel Brutes, finishes the war on Delta Halo (which was pretty
> much
> > what the game was about), and leaves a great buildup for Halo 3 without,
> in
> > my opinion, being a disappointing cliffhanger. If you want the game to be
> > long, play it on Legendary. Easy and Normal are intentionally short, so
> you
> > can beat it quick and learn the plot.
> You may have a point here, perhaps they did dumb down the AI, I'll try it on
> Heroic-as a matter of fact I just did a quick search and you're right it
> seems they've made each setting a little easier. So Heroic in Halo 2 may
> actually be closer to what was normal in Halo 1.
>
> Also I think your're right in that Halo 2 is just a teaser to buy Halo 3

Agreed. When completing the game, I was left with a feeling of being
ripped off by some Microsoft executive that ordered the folks at
Bungie to alter the game they promised us and publish a completely
different game altogether. As others have pointed out, we were made to
believe that H2's story would be set on earth, but it's basically a
remake of H1's story. The storyline itself seems to have been a
compromise between Bungie's school of multi-levelled and intricate
plots on the one hand, and Microsoft's wish to sell a mainstream
action FPS on the other. Too many loose ends and easy solutions - for
instance, I can't remember that we were told how the Covenant located
earth in the first place, or if this issue was even raised by the
human characters. I guess if Bungie was free to produce the game
without Microsoft interference, MC would probably have found some
ancient technology that enabled him to travel back in time and
discover the origin of the ring structures, but I believe H3 will be
just another adrenaline rush without the epic proportions that Bungie
certainly put into the Marathon saga. Of course I'll get it, but I may
just download it from the web - I paid for quite a different game when
buying H2.

> which I will buy along with the new console :-). The ending still could
> have better than a boss battle. Maybe it was a homage to old school games.
> I hope I didn't come across as implying Halo is crap it's not. I mean
> disappointing Halo is still way better than most games out there.

Absolutely - it's a great game. That's why I'm playing the last
chapter on Legendary now, to see if the end credits really say
anything about something happening on November 9th. Lord knows they
didn't on Normal. If anything, I guess that's when Bungies contract
with Microsoft expires and they can make the genuine version of H2 as
they want to - for the Mac, of course

Thomas

thomasgt@hotmail.com (Thomas Tsigaridas) wrote in message news:<63105548.0412030026.6fc1f3e8@posting.google. com>...
> "None40" <noway@none.com> wrote in message news:<ndVqd.381088$nl.232624@pd7tw3no>...
> > "Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
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> > > On 11/29/04 8:00 PM, in article 2vQqd.369286$Pl.169037@pd7tw1no, "None40"
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> anything about something happening on November 9th.

Make that *February* 9th.

Thom

"Thomas Tsigaridas" <thomasgt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I was under the impression that this was in the book that describes the
period of time right after Halo: CE. I'e also heard that it answers how
Johnson got off the original ring.