Favorite Vehicles?

1. Banshee- it is agile, can fire fuel rods and a normal
plasma attack, has a decent reloading time, and can take
a decent amount of damadge compared to what it can dish
out.

2. Warthog- using the tight turning radius you can
slaughter three people at the same time if they are
stupid enough to travel in groups when there are
vehicles, the gunner can really help when under fire(if
they are good enough), and it has a high enough speed to
satisfy all the Hit n' Run hillbillies that play Halo.

3. Ghost- It has the ability to strafe so you can really
mess up the opposistions tactics, and you don't have to
wait for the plasma gun, because it jas a good rate of
fire.

4. Rocket Warthog- The rockets fire fast but they take
too long to reload, but the driving ability and the
ability to carry an extra passenger helps.

5. Scorpion- It has an immense amount of power, but the
reloading takes too long. the Machine gun on it helps but
not enough. Any lightly skilled player can take out a
Scorpion with a banshee or in some cases a R. Warthog.
but i'm guessing that's why Bungie made it able to take
on 4 passengers to help with its speed and reloading
weakness.

I heard that Halo 2 will have the ability to let the
computer controlled characters drive around, so it will
really help on Campaign, but unless they threw in "bots"
for Multiplayer, it shouldn't matter. If they did though
would it help the game or hurt it?
1.because i played Perfect Dark and Unreal Tournament all
the time before i got Halo and nobody wanted to fight me
(except people that have never played before) because the
computer controlled simulants were predictable and easy
to kill.
2. Will it allow the average joe to gain experience
fighting the bots instead of him getting killed playing
against his friends and not learning anything from it,
because you can only play Campaign so many times before
you stop learning anything new(and thats when you start
to stop playing the game).
any thoughts on this?

> 1. Banshee- it is agile, can fire fuel rods and a normal
> plasma attack, has a decent reloading time, and can take
> a decent amount of damadge compared to what it can dish
> out.
>
> 2. Warthog- using the tight turning radius you can
> slaughter three people at the same time if they are
> stupid enough to travel in groups when there are
> vehicles, the gunner can really help when under fire(if
> they are good enough), and it has a high enough speed to
> satisfy all the Hit n' Run hillbillies that play Halo.
>
> 3. Ghost- It has the ability to strafe so you can really
> mess up the opposistions tactics, and you don't have to
> wait for the plasma gun, because it jas a good rate of
> fire.
>
> 4. Rocket Warthog- The rockets fire fast but they take
> too long to reload, but the driving ability and the
> ability to carry an extra passenger helps.
>
> 5. Scorpion- It has an immense amount of power, but the
> reloading takes too long. the Machine gun on it helps but
> not enough. Any lightly skilled player can take out a
> Scorpion with a banshee or in some cases a R. Warthog.
> but i'm guessing that's why Bungie made it able to take
> on 4 passengers to help with its speed and reloading
> weakness.
>
> I heard that Halo 2 will have the ability to let the
> computer controlled characters drive around, so it will
> really help on Campaign, but unless they threw in "bots"
> for Multiplayer, it shouldn't matter. If they did though
> would it help the game or hurt it?
> 1.because i played Perfect Dark and Unreal Tournament all
> the time before i got Halo and nobody wanted to fight me
> (except people that have never played before) because the
> computer controlled simulants were predictable and easy
> to kill.
> 2. Will it allow the average joe to gain experience
> fighting the bots instead of him getting killed playing
> against his friends and not learning anything from it,
> because you can only play Campaign so many times before
> you stop learning anything new(and thats when you start
> to stop playing the game).
> any thoughts on this?

Halo 2 will have Campaign AI (Marines) driving Warthogs, Ghosts, and other
vehicles, but there are no bots in multiplayer.

--
Life is like a box of chocolates.
A lot of the time you find yourself choking on coconut.

[Greg Tyndall]

On 10/21/04 12:14 PM, in article s_-dndfkEvQFc-rcRVn-ow@comcast.com, "Greg
Tyndall" <swtyndall@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>>>> What is everybody's favorite vehicle in Halo? Mine is unquestionably
> the
>>>> Banshee. Second place is a tie between Warthog and Ghost. Scorpion is
> the
>>>> last. I like Warthog better in Campaign because with the Ghost it is
> very
>>>> hard to run over enemies, but in Multiplayer I love the Ghost for its
>>>> strafing abilities, the fact that it's almost impossible to flip, and
> its
>>>> great plasma weapons. What's your opinion?
>>>
>>> Here's a list of my preferences:
>>> 1st: Warthog:
>>> Speed, passengers, size, and versatility.
>>> 2nd: Banshee:
>>> Range, speed, and maneuverability. Gets caught in objects easily.
>>> 3rd: Ghost:
>>> Speed, weight, and sniper-friendliness. Hard to hit people with.
>>> 4th: Scorpion:
>>> Power, size, and passengers. Speed is a problem.
>>
>> The warthog may have a higher top speed than the ghost, but unless you're
>> really good with it, the ghost tends to move at a more or less equal speed
>> because of its maneuverability. The Banshee also moves just as fast, and
>> generally takes you to your location much more quickly, as it can fly over
>> all obstacles.
>
> I am really good at driving the Warthog but the vehicle I'd pick depends
> mainly on the situation. If I have Marines, it's likely that I'll choose the
> Warthog or the Scorpion. If I'm all alone, Ghost or Banshee. Because I snipe
> a lot, it is possible that I would choose a Ghost when I have Marines.
>

I'll usually take a Warthog in campaign, whether or not there are Marines,
unless there's a Banshee available. I'll always avoid driving a Scorpion
unless there's no other option.

>> Passengers aren't usually all that useful in the side seat of a warthog or
>> scorpion, but having a gunner can be nice in multiplayer, if they couldn't
>> get their own vehicle. In campaign, it increases the usefulness of marines
>> greatly as well, except in Assault on the Control Room, where they could
>> drive ghosts alongside you.
>
> The side seat on the Warthog is underated. Even if it's hard to aim from, it
> can quickly transport you from one area to the next. Another option is just
> jumping out when you encounter enemies.
>
> At least the side seat is going to be useful to ride in Halo 2.
> >> Warthogs are difficult to hit people with in multiplayer because of their
>> poor maneuverability, but in campaign they're better because of the
> scripted
>> AI. Banshees, though, are more effective at this. Another problem with
> them
>> is that in multiplayer, you take a lot of hits with them and generally
> don't
>> last long. The versatility of a warthog is very nice, but I find ghosts a
>> little more suited for multiplayer. Banshees, in my opinion, are best for
>> getting to your objective in multiplayer and in campaign, as well as
>> slaughtering people when the occasion calls for it.
>
> If you're good with the Warthog, running people down is easy. The Ghost may
> be a little more suited for multiplayer, but most players/cheaters use them
> for the "Circle of Death." I think the Warthog is better health-wise because
> it's harder to be hit with sniper shots and other weapons, not to mention
> the windshield blocks most incoming shots. Banshees are nice but in
> campaign, you're blasted out of the sky before you can bail.
>

No matter how good you are with a Warthog, it's always possible to dodge it
or just jump into the windshield. If your windshield hits an enemy, it won't
hurt them, so no matter how you do it, you can't guarantee a kill in
Multiplayer. The Circle of Death isn't nearly as effective or as quick as
just running into them. Also, if you zigzag around in the Ghost, it can be
even more difficult to hit than the Warthog. And in Campaign, Banshees are
almost invincible if you remain at high altitudes and take out enemies from
beyond their range with the Fuel Rod Gun. Other Banshees can fly up to you,
but the AI pilots suck so much I've seen them knock themselves out of a
Banshee by scraping the belly against a wall, killing themselves and giving
you a free Banshee with full health. It's easy to beat them in a dogfight
taking minimal or no damage.

>> Banshees are also very useful for just flying over everything; stay high
> and
>> nothing can stop you. You can also kill enemies from way beyond the range
>> they could possibly retaliate from.
>
> The Banshee's plasma cannons are too inaccurate to be of any use when you're
> far away, but the FRG is a little ridiculous if you can aim it.
> >> Ghosts are very useful because of their jumping abilities, which can be
> used
>> to take huge shortcuts in multiplayer and campaign. They're also hard to
> hit
>> since they move so fast, and they're maneuverable enough that it's almost
>> impossible to lead a shot on one. Also, they're great for running over
>> people in multiplayer.
>
> Good points, but I find the Ghost impossible to run people over with. I've
> run Covenant down, but they're AI. Also, because of the Ghost's shape, you
> have to be careful about how you're facing the enemy.

The Ghost is easy enough to run people over with; in fact, I find it easier
than in a Warthog. Just slow down before you hit them so you can quickly
recover from a miss, and turn sideways at the last second to throw off their
dodge. Once you're good with it, it's even easier to run down Multiplayer
enemies than the Covenant, since the AI can do the insane distance lunges
out of your way. Also, it's next to impossible to hit Grunts and Jackals,
since you just go over them.

On 10/21/04 12:34 PM, in article 006401c4b794$3b2ffce0$a601280a@phx.gbl,
"Bob S." <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> 1. Banshee- it is agile, can fire fuel rods and a normal
> plasma attack, has a decent reloading time, and can take
> a decent amount of damadge compared to what it can dish
> out.
>
> 2. Warthog- using the tight turning radius you can
> slaughter three people at the same time if they are
> stupid enough to travel in groups when there are
> vehicles, the gunner can really help when under fire(if
> they are good enough), and it has a high enough speed to
> satisfy all the Hit n' Run hillbillies that play Halo.
>

I find the Ghost more suited for running over people in Multiplayer than the
Warthog. Also, the chaingun isn't all that useful against skilled foes, and
unless you're really good at driving, the Ghost's maneuverability makes you
move faster in it, despite the Warthog's higher actual top speed.

> 3. Ghost- It has the ability to strafe so you can really
> mess up the opposistions tactics, and you don't have to
> wait for the plasma gun, because it jas a good rate of
> fire.
>
> 4. Rocket Warthog- The rockets fire fast but they take
> too long to reload, but the driving ability and the
> ability to carry an extra passenger helps.
>

If you use the rockets wisely, you'll rarely need to reload in the middle of
a fight. Just reload between fights or when you have some breathing room and
you'll generally be able to down the opposition with three well-placed
rockets.
> 5. Scorpion- It has an immense amount of power, but the
> reloading takes too long. the Machine gun on it helps but
> not enough. Any lightly skilled player can take out a
> Scorpion with a banshee or in some cases a R. Warthog.
> but i'm guessing that's why Bungie made it able to take
> on 4 passengers to help with its speed and reloading
> weakness.
>
> I heard that Halo 2 will have the ability to let the
> computer controlled characters drive around, so it will
> really help on Campaign, but unless they threw in "bots"
> for Multiplayer, it shouldn't matter. If they did though
> would it help the game or hurt it?

I don't think they'll use bots- it would probably hurt the game more than
help it. The campaign teaches you enough that you can get online and use
your skills against people equal to you or close enough that you get better
from fighting them.

> 1.because i played Perfect Dark and Unreal Tournament all
> the time before i got Halo and nobody wanted to fight me
> (except people that have never played before) because the
> computer controlled simulants were predictable and easy
> to kill.
> 2. Will it allow the average joe to gain experience
> fighting the bots instead of him getting killed playing
> against his friends and not learning anything from it,
> because you can only play Campaign so many times before
> you stop learning anything new(and thats when you start
> to stop playing the game).
> any thoughts on this?

> >>>> What is everybody's favorite vehicle in Halo? Mine is unquestionably
> > the
> >>>> Banshee. Second place is a tie between Warthog and Ghost. Scorpion is
> > the
> >>>> last. I like Warthog better in Campaign because with the Ghost it is
> > very
> >>>> hard to run over enemies, but in Multiplayer I love the Ghost for its
> >>>> strafing abilities, the fact that it's almost impossible to flip, and
> > its
> >>>> great plasma weapons. What's your opinion?
> >>>
> >>> Here's a list of my preferences:
> >>> 1st: Warthog:
> >>> Speed, passengers, size, and versatility.
> >>> 2nd: Banshee:
> >>> Range, speed, and maneuverability. Gets caught in objects easily.
> >>> 3rd: Ghost:
> >>> Speed, weight, and sniper-friendliness. Hard to hit people with.
> >>> 4th: Scorpion:
> >>> Power, size, and passengers. Speed is a problem.
> >>
> >> The warthog may have a higher top speed than the ghost, but unless
you're
> >> really good with it, the ghost tends to move at a more or less equal
speed
> >> because of its maneuverability. The Banshee also moves just as fast,
and
> >> generally takes you to your location much more quickly, as it can fly
over
> >> all obstacles.
> >
> > I am really good at driving the Warthog but the vehicle I'd pick
depends
> > mainly on the situation. If I have Marines, it's likely that I'll choose
the
> > Warthog or the Scorpion. If I'm all alone, Ghost or Banshee. Because I
snipe
> > a lot, it is possible that I would choose a Ghost when I have Marines.
> >
>
> I'll usually take a Warthog in campaign, whether or not there are Marines,
> unless there's a Banshee available. I'll always avoid driving a Scorpion
> unless there's no other option.

Sometimes I might just skip or kill the Marines when I just wanna go solo
and snipe. If you hadn't gathered by now, that's pretty much all I do

> >> Passengers aren't usually all that useful in the side seat of a warthog
or
> >> scorpion, but having a gunner can be nice in multiplayer, if they
couldn't
> >> get their own vehicle. In campaign, it increases the usefulness of
marines
> >> greatly as well, except in Assault on the Control Room, where they
could
> >> drive ghosts alongside you.
> >
> > The side seat on the Warthog is underated. Even if it's hard to aim
from, it
> > can quickly transport you from one area to the next. Another option is
just
> > jumping out when you encounter enemies.
> >
> > At least the side seat is going to be useful to ride in Halo 2.
> > >> Warthogs are difficult to hit people with in multiplayer because of
their
> >> poor maneuverability, but in campaign they're better because of the
> > scripted
> >> AI. Banshees, though, are more effective at this. Another problem with
> > them
> >> is that in multiplayer, you take a lot of hits with them and generally
> > don't
> >> last long. The versatility of a warthog is very nice, but I find ghosts
a
> >> little more suited for multiplayer. Banshees, in my opinion, are best
for
> >> getting to your objective in multiplayer and in campaign, as well as
> >> slaughtering people when the occasion calls for it.
> >
> > If you're good with the Warthog, running people down is easy. The Ghost
may
> > be a little more suited for multiplayer, but most players/cheaters use
them
> > for the "Circle of Death." I think the Warthog is better health-wise
because
> > it's harder to be hit with sniper shots and other weapons, not to
mention
> > the windshield blocks most incoming shots. Banshees are nice but in
> > campaign, you're blasted out of the sky before you can bail.
> >
>
> No matter how good you are with a Warthog, it's always possible to dodge
it
> or just jump into the windshield. If your windshield hits an enemy, it
won't
> hurt them, so no matter how you do it, you can't guarantee a kill in
> Multiplayer. The Circle of Death isn't nearly as effective or as quick as
> just running into them. Also, if you zigzag around in the Ghost, it can be
> even more difficult to hit than the Warthog. And in Campaign, Banshees are
> almost invincible if you remain at high altitudes and take out enemies
from
> beyond their range with the Fuel Rod Gun. Other Banshees can fly up to
you,
> but the AI pilots suck so much I've seen them knock themselves out of a
> Banshee by scraping the belly against a wall, killing themselves and
giving
> you a free Banshee with full health. It's easy to beat them in a dogfight
> taking minimal or no damage.

Yeah, those AI Banshees are too easy. One time on the level Halo, a Banshee
slammed into a tree and the pilot was ejected off the cliff. Momentarily, I
thought "Alright! A free Banshee!" But my hopes were quickly dashed when I
learned it was a "un-pilotable" Banshee.

Another time on AotCR, a Banshee went completely berserk. It was on the ice
rink near the underground chasm and I was on foot. I had just finished off
everything but the Hunters, when the Banshee dive-bombed me. What's odd is
that it was moving faster than normal, firing more, and it was using FRGs!
After a few seconds, it smashed into the ground. Unfortunately, I was under
it. Pretty weird...

> >> Banshees are also very useful for just flying over everything; stay
high
> > and
> >> nothing can stop you. You can also kill enemies from way beyond the
range
> >> they could possibly retaliate from.
> >
> > The Banshee's plasma cannons are too inaccurate to be of any use when
you're
> > far away, but the FRG is a little ridiculous if you can aim it.
> > >> Ghosts are very useful because of their jumping abilities, which can
be
> > used
> >> to take huge shortcuts in multiplayer and campaign. They're also hard
to
> > hit
> >> since they move so fast, and they're maneuverable enough that it's
almost
> >> impossible to lead a shot on one. Also, they're great for running over
> >> people in multiplayer.
> >
> > Good points, but I find the Ghost impossible to run people over with.
I've
> > run Covenant down, but they're AI. Also, because of the Ghost's shape,
you
> > have to be careful about how you're facing the enemy.
>
> The Ghost is easy enough to run people over with; in fact, I find it
easier
> than in a Warthog. Just slow down before you hit them so you can quickly
> recover from a miss, and turn sideways at the last second to throw off
their
> dodge. Once you're good with it, it's even easier to run down Multiplayer
> enemies than the Covenant, since the AI can do the insane distance lunges
> out of your way. Also, it's next to impossible to hit Grunts and Jackals,
> since you just go over them.

I'll have to try that

--
I think, therefore I make sure everyone hears about it.

[Greg Tyndall]

On 10/21/04 7:00 PM, in article c5CdnSNrOJo-0OXcRVn-jA@comcast.com, "Greg
Tyndall" <swtyndall@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>>>>>> What is everybody's favorite vehicle in Halo? Mine is unquestionably
>>> the
>>>>>> Banshee. Second place is a tie between Warthog and Ghost. Scorpion is
>>> the
>>>>>> last. I like Warthog better in Campaign because with the Ghost it is
>>> very
>>>>>> hard to run over enemies, but in Multiplayer I love the Ghost for its
>>>>>> strafing abilities, the fact that it's almost impossible to flip, and
>>> its
>>>>>> great plasma weapons. What's your opinion?
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a list of my preferences:
>>>>> 1st: Warthog:
>>>>> Speed, passengers, size, and versatility.
>>>>> 2nd: Banshee:
>>>>> Range, speed, and maneuverability. Gets caught in objects easily.
>>>>> 3rd: Ghost:
>>>>> Speed, weight, and sniper-friendliness. Hard to hit people with.
>>>>> 4th: Scorpion:
>>>>> Power, size, and passengers. Speed is a problem.
>>>>
>>>> The warthog may have a higher top speed than the ghost, but unless
> you're
>>>> really good with it, the ghost tends to move at a more or less equal
> speed
>>>> because of its maneuverability. The Banshee also moves just as fast,
> and
>>>> generally takes you to your location much more quickly, as it can fly
> over
>>>> all obstacles.
>>>
>>> I am really good at driving the Warthog but the vehicle I'd pick
> depends
>>> mainly on the situation. If I have Marines, it's likely that I'll choose
> the
>>> Warthog or the Scorpion. If I'm all alone, Ghost or Banshee. Because I
> snipe
>>> a lot, it is possible that I would choose a Ghost when I have Marines.
>>>
>>
>> I'll usually take a Warthog in campaign, whether or not there are Marines,
>> unless there's a Banshee available. I'll always avoid driving a Scorpion
>> unless there's no other option.
>
> Sometimes I might just skip or kill the Marines when I just wanna go solo
> and snipe. If you hadn't gathered by now, that's pretty much all I do
>

Yeah, Marines will sometimes alert enemies when you want to be stealthy. In
those cases, I'd suggest letting them take the Covenant's attention while
you get into position. Let them die and then take out the Covenant at your
leisure. Of course, if the preset AI paths were what you were relying on,
then sometimes slaughtering the Marines beforehand is a good idea.

>>>> Passengers aren't usually all that useful in the side seat of a warthog
> or
>>>> scorpion, but having a gunner can be nice in multiplayer, if they
> couldn't
>>>> get their own vehicle. In campaign, it increases the usefulness of
> marines
>>>> greatly as well, except in Assault on the Control Room, where they
> could
>>>> drive ghosts alongside you.
>>>
>>> The side seat on the Warthog is underated. Even if it's hard to aim
> from, it
>>> can quickly transport you from one area to the next. Another option is
> just
>>> jumping out when you encounter enemies.
>>>
>>> At least the side seat is going to be useful to ride in Halo 2.
>>>>> Warthogs are difficult to hit people with in multiplayer because of
> their
>>>> poor maneuverability, but in campaign they're better because of the
>>> scripted
>>>> AI. Banshees, though, are more effective at this. Another problem with
>>> them
>>>> is that in multiplayer, you take a lot of hits with them and generally
>>> don't
>>>> last long. The versatility of a warthog is very nice, but I find ghosts
> a
>>>> little more suited for multiplayer. Banshees, in my opinion, are best
> for
>>>> getting to your objective in multiplayer and in campaign, as well as
>>>> slaughtering people when the occasion calls for it.
>>>
>>> If you're good with the Warthog, running people down is easy. The Ghost
> may
>>> be a little more suited for multiplayer, but most players/cheaters use
> them
>>> for the "Circle of Death." I think the Warthog is better health-wise
> because
>>> it's harder to be hit with sniper shots and other weapons, not to
> mention
>>> the windshield blocks most incoming shots. Banshees are nice but in
>>> campaign, you're blasted out of the sky before you can bail.
>>>
>>
>> No matter how good you are with a Warthog, it's always possible to dodge
> it
>> or just jump into the windshield. If your windshield hits an enemy, it
> won't
>> hurt them, so no matter how you do it, you can't guarantee a kill in
>> Multiplayer. The Circle of Death isn't nearly as effective or as quick as
>> just running into them. Also, if you zigzag around in the Ghost, it can be
>> even more difficult to hit than the Warthog. And in Campaign, Banshees are
>> almost invincible if you remain at high altitudes and take out enemies
> from
>> beyond their range with the Fuel Rod Gun. Other Banshees can fly up to
> you,
>> but the AI pilots suck so much I've seen them knock themselves out of a
>> Banshee by scraping the belly against a wall, killing themselves and
> giving
>> you a free Banshee with full health. It's easy to beat them in a dogfight
>> taking minimal or no damage.
>
> Yeah, those AI Banshees are too easy. One time on the level Halo, a Banshee
> slammed into a tree and the pilot was ejected off the cliff. Momentarily, I
> thought "Alright! A free Banshee!" But my hopes were quickly dashed when I
> learned it was a "un-pilotable" Banshee.
>

That happened to me in Halo as well when a pilot flew straight into the side
of the cliff, then scraped along upward until its belly touched the rock,
and it fell out. I had the same disappointment as you.

> Another time on AotCR, a Banshee went completely berserk. It was on the ice
> rink near the underground chasm and I was on foot. I had just finished off
> everything but the Hunters, when the Banshee dive-bombed me. What's odd is
> that it was moving faster than normal, firing more, and it was using FRGs!
> After a few seconds, it smashed into the ground. Unfortunately, I was under
> it. Pretty weird...
>

The AI pilots do use FRGs from time to time. But speeding up and all that is
a little strange. Dive-bombing isn't unheard of; it's been my death more
than once.

>>>> Banshees are also very useful for just flying over everything; stay
> high
>>> and
>>>> nothing can stop you. You can also kill enemies from way beyond the
> range
>>>> they could possibly retaliate from.
>>>
>>> The Banshee's plasma cannons are too inaccurate to be of any use when
> you're
>>> far away, but the FRG is a little ridiculous if you can aim it.
>>>>> Ghosts are very useful because of their jumping abilities, which can
> be
>>> used
>>>> to take huge shortcuts in multiplayer and campaign. They're also hard
> to
>>> hit
>>>> since they move so fast, and they're maneuverable enough that it's
> almost
>>>> impossible to lead a shot on one. Also, they're great for running over
>>>> people in multiplayer.
>>>
>>> Good points, but I find the Ghost impossible to run people over with.
> I've
>>> run Covenant down, but they're AI. Also, because of the Ghost's shape,
> you
>>> have to be careful about how you're facing the enemy.
>>
>> The Ghost is easy enough to run people over with; in fact, I find it
> easier
>> than in a Warthog. Just slow down before you hit them so you can quickly
>> recover from a miss, and turn sideways at the last second to throw off
> their
>> dodge. Once you're good with it, it's even easier to run down Multiplayer
>> enemies than the Covenant, since the AI can do the insane distance lunges
>> out of your way. Also, it's next to impossible to hit Grunts and Jackals,
>> since you just go over them.
>
> I'll have to try that

Experimenting with vehicles is a good idea. You never know when you'll find
something like the ability to flip a Scorpion off the hood of your Warthog

This is going to be my only response to this because I can't stand getting
into an argument with noobs and how they think they really are not noobs.

If you've ever played online then you should already know the answer. Anyone
that sits there in a tank all game, or a shee, is a noob because they can't
come out and fight "normal" because they suck too much. And you are right
though, "anybody" can use them, but anyone can also use Rocket Launchers or
Fuel Rods, but you don't see your good players doing that because it is
noobish. I can kill someone just as fast with a pistol as with a RL or FR,
but I haven't touched any of those weapons in over a year (I play under
{RR}BgDaddy if you ever see me online then you can see for yourself that I
don't use puss guns). I guess if you can't kill someone with a pistol (or
other standard weapons), then you resort to picking up the heavy weapons and
heavy weapon vehicles. It's cheap and all your good players know it's cheap,
that's why in clan wars and tournaments they set the server up so they don't
even put those weapons or vehicles on the board because it's about who is
best, not who is fastest to the noob guns/vehicles. And that sir is why they
are noobish. I play on the pc version just so you know and are not looking
for me on XBox live or something.

"Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
news:BD9D17B4.1484%darkeagle@lisco.com...
> How is it noobiness if anyone can use them?
>
> On 10/21/04 1:18 AM, in article AwIdd.431824$Fg5.247959@attbi_s53, "Bob"
> <noneofyourbusiness@go****yourself.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you're a banshee whore!!!!
>>
>> 1. Ghost/Hog- doesn't really matter cause I'm good enough with either
>> one.
>>
>> 2. Oh wait, there is no 2 cause the Tank and Banshee suck. Well not suck
>> in
>> killing ability, just in the noobness feeling that anyone good should get
>> for using such a vehicle.
>> "Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
>> news:BD9C0F11.1474%darkeagle@lisco.com...
>>> What is everybody's favorite vehicle in Halo? Mine is unquestionably the
>>> Banshee. Second place is a tie between Warthog and Ghost. Scorpion is
>>> the
>>> last. I like Warthog better in Campaign because with the Ghost it is
>>> very
>>> hard to run over enemies, but in Multiplayer I love the Ghost for its
>>> strafing abilities, the fact that it's almost impossible to flip, and
>>> its
>>> great plasma weapons. What's your opinion?
>>>
>>
>>
>

>-----Original Message-----
>Devala Rees <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
news:<BD9C0F11.1474%darkeagle@lisco.com>...
>
>> What is everybody's favorite vehicle in Halo?
>
>Scorpion! Me pull trigger, go BOOOOM!!!
>
>-Eric
>.
>
i usally don't use any kind of vehicles, i rather remaing
hidden when people use them, but only to attack them by
surprise, i dont use RL either, guess i am an old school
soldier, live by honor and kill by stealh

> >>>> The warthog may have a higher top speed than the ghost, but unless
> >>>> you're
> >>>> really good with it, the ghost tends to move at a more or less equal
> >>>> speed
> >>>> because of its maneuverability. The Banshee also moves just as fast,
> >>>> and
> >>>> generally takes you to your location much more quickly, as it can fly
> >>>> over
> >>>> all obstacles.
> >>>
> >>> I am really good at driving the Warthog but the vehicle I'd pick
> >>> depends
> >>> mainly on the situation. If I have Marines, it's likely that I'll
choose
> >>> the
> >>> Warthog or the Scorpion. If I'm all alone, Ghost or Banshee. Because I
> >>> snipe
> >>> a lot, it is possible that I would choose a Ghost when I have Marines.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I'll usually take a Warthog in campaign, whether or not there are
Marines,
> >> unless there's a Banshee available. I'll always avoid driving a
Scorpion
> >> unless there's no other option.
> >
> > Sometimes I might just skip or kill the Marines when I just wanna go
solo
> > and snipe. If you hadn't gathered by now, that's pretty much all I do
> >
>
> Yeah, Marines will sometimes alert enemies when you want to be stealthy.
In
> those cases, I'd suggest letting them take the Covenant's attention while
> you get into position. Let them die and then take out the Covenant at your
> leisure. Of course, if the preset AI paths were what you were relying on,
> then sometimes slaughtering the Marines beforehand is a good idea.

In places like T&R, the Marines are idiots; they run up, give away our
position, and die. This unfortunately means friendly-fire is the only
solution. And a lousy one at that. After I kill two, the others (usually 5
or 6) attack, causing damage to health and ammo. This is quite a blow,
especially on Legendary.

I prefer to take on all the Covenant alone, with only a sniper rifle. The
Marines just throw grenades at me.

> >>>> Passengers aren't usually all that useful in the side seat of a
warthog
> >>>> or
> >>>> scorpion, but having a gunner can be nice in multiplayer, if they
> >>>> couldn't
> >>>> get their own vehicle. In campaign, it increases the usefulness of
> >>>> marines
> >>>> greatly as well, except in Assault on the Control Room, where they
> >>>> could
> >>>> drive ghosts alongside you.
> >>>
> >>> The side seat on the Warthog is underated. Even if it's hard to aim
> >>> from, it
> >>> can quickly transport you from one area to the next. Another option is
> >>> just
> >>> jumping out when you encounter enemies.
> >>>
> >>> At least the side seat is going to be useful to ride in Halo 2.
> >>>>> Warthogs are difficult to hit people with in multiplayer because of
> >>>>>their
> >>>> poor maneuverability, but in campaign they're better because of the
> >>> scripted
> >>>> AI. Banshees, though, are more effective at this. Another problem
with
> >>> them
> >>>> is that in multiplayer, you take a lot of hits with them and
generally
> >>> don't
> >>>> last long. The versatility of a warthog is very nice, but I find
ghosts
> > a
> >>>> little more suited for multiplayer. Banshees, in my opinion, are best
> > for
> >>>> getting to your objective in multiplayer and in campaign, as well as
> >>>> slaughtering people when the occasion calls for it.
> >>>
> >>> If you're good with the Warthog, running people down is easy. The
Ghost
> > may
> >>> be a little more suited for multiplayer, but most players/cheaters use
> > them
> >>> for the "Circle of Death." I think the Warthog is better health-wise
> > because
> >>> it's harder to be hit with sniper shots and other weapons, not to
> > mention
> >>> the windshield blocks most incoming shots. Banshees are nice but in
> >>> campaign, you're blasted out of the sky before you can bail.
> >>>
> >>
> >> No matter how good you are with a Warthog, it's always possible to
dodge
> > it
> >> or just jump into the windshield. If your windshield hits an enemy, it
> > won't
> >> hurt them, so no matter how you do it, you can't guarantee a kill in
> >> Multiplayer. The Circle of Death isn't nearly as effective or as quick
as
> >> just running into them. Also, if you zigzag around in the Ghost, it can
be
> >> even more difficult to hit than the Warthog. And in Campaign, Banshees
are
> >> almost invincible if you remain at high altitudes and take out enemies
> > from
> >> beyond their range with the Fuel Rod Gun. Other Banshees can fly up to
> > you,
> >> but the AI pilots suck so much I've seen them knock themselves out of a
> >> Banshee by scraping the belly against a wall, killing themselves and
> > giving
> >> you a free Banshee with full health. It's easy to beat them in a
dogfight
> >> taking minimal or no damage.
> >
> > Yeah, those AI Banshees are too easy. One time on the level Halo, a
Banshee
> > slammed into a tree and the pilot was ejected off the cliff.
Momentarily, I
> > thought "Alright! A free Banshee!" But my hopes were quickly dashed when
I
> > learned it was a "un-pilotable" Banshee.
> >
>
> That happened to me in Halo as well when a pilot flew straight into the
side
> of the cliff, then scraped along upward until its belly touched the rock,
> and it fell out. I had the same disappointment as you.

A similar thing happened in AotCR, but in a different way and I could fly
the Banshee. It's a long story if you wanna pass it up:
I was running full-blast in a Ghost past the ice rink towards the
underground chasm. When I reached the door, I jumped out of my Ghost and
activated the switch. But I didn't realize how many enemies had followed me.
I looked up the hill and there were (rough estimate) 4 Grunts, 2 Elites, 4
Ghosts, 3 Jackals, 2 Hunters, and a Banshee. All of them coming to kill me.

Anyway, I ran away towards the undergound chasm (hey, you'd run too), and
passed a loading point. I went back and everything was frozen. An Elite
didn't even fight back when I ran up and socked him in the face. I also
found two Elites that kept moving in one direction (and eventually into a
wall). Anyway, I found a Banshee, but an Elite's corpse that lay next to it
(i.e. they both had fallen out of mid-air). What's odd is that the Banshee
was closed, as if there was a pilot in it.

Oh, well. Just a story of mine...

> > Another time on AotCR, a Banshee went completely berserk. It was on the
ice
> > rink near the underground chasm and I was on foot. I had just finished
off
> > everything but the Hunters, when the Banshee dive-bombed me. What's odd
is
> > that it was moving faster than normal, firing more, and it was using
FRGs!
> > After a few seconds, it smashed into the ground. Unfortunately, I was
under
> > it. Pretty weird...
> >
>
> The AI pilots do use FRGs from time to time. But speeding up and all that
is
> a little strange. Dive-bombing isn't unheard of; it's been my death more
> than once.

I've only seen a Banshee actually try to run the MC into the ground when
this glitch has happened. Otherwise, I've only seen Banshees use FRGs on
other vehicles; I was on foot... :-\

> >>>> Banshees are also very useful for just flying over everything; stay
> > high
> >>> and
> >>>> nothing can stop you. You can also kill enemies from way beyond the
> > range
> >>>> they could possibly retaliate from.
> >>>
> >>> The Banshee's plasma cannons are too inaccurate to be of any use when
> > you're
> >>> far away, but the FRG is a little ridiculous if you can aim it.
> >>>>> Ghosts are very useful because of their jumping abilities, which can
> > be
> >>> used
> >>>> to take huge shortcuts in multiplayer and campaign. They're also hard
> > to
> >>> hit
> >>>> since they move so fast, and they're maneuverable enough that it's
> > almost
> >>>> impossible to lead a shot on one. Also, they're great for running
over
> >>>> people in multiplayer.
> >>>
> >>> Good points, but I find the Ghost impossible to run people over with.
> > I've
> >>> run Covenant down, but they're AI. Also, because of the Ghost's shape,
> > you
> >>> have to be careful about how you're facing the enemy.
> >>
> >> The Ghost is easy enough to run people over with; in fact, I find it
> > easier
> >> than in a Warthog. Just slow down before you hit them so you can
quickly
> >> recover from a miss, and turn sideways at the last second to throw off
> > their
> >> dodge. Once you're good with it, it's even easier to run down
Multiplayer
> >> enemies than the Covenant, since the AI can do the insane distance
lunges
> >> out of your way. Also, it's next to impossible to hit Grunts and
Jackals,
> >> since you just go over them.
> >
> > I'll have to try that
>
> Experimenting with vehicles is a good idea. You never know when you'll
find
> something like the ability to flip a Scorpion off the hood of your Warthog
>

Do you mean run a Warthog under a Scorpion? That move has saved me countless
times.

--
I think, therefore I make sure everyone hears about it.

[Greg Tyndall]

I find Rockets and Fuel Rods very fun. I often play games with just Rockets,
and I love them. I'm not a noob; I don't enjoy using tanks and rockets and
all that in normal games, but sometimes I like just playing only with them.


On 10/22/04 2:11 AM, in article yo2ed.438326$Fg5.199187@attbi_s53, "Bob"
<noneofyourbusiness@go****yourself.com> wrote:

> This is going to be my only response to this because I can't stand getting
> into an argument with noobs and how they think they really are not noobs.
>
> If you've ever played online then you should already know the answer. Anyone
> that sits there in a tank all game, or a shee, is a noob because they can't
> come out and fight "normal" because they suck too much. And you are right
> though, "anybody" can use them, but anyone can also use Rocket Launchers or
> Fuel Rods, but you don't see your good players doing that because it is
> noobish. I can kill someone just as fast with a pistol as with a RL or FR,
> but I haven't touched any of those weapons in over a year (I play under
> {RR}BgDaddy if you ever see me online then you can see for yourself that I
> don't use puss guns). I guess if you can't kill someone with a pistol (or
> other standard weapons), then you resort to picking up the heavy weapons and
> heavy weapon vehicles. It's cheap and all your good players know it's cheap,
> that's why in clan wars and tournaments they set the server up so they don't
> even put those weapons or vehicles on the board because it's about who is
> best, not who is fastest to the noob guns/vehicles. And that sir is why they
> are noobish. I play on the pc version just so you know and are not looking
> for me on XBox live or something.
>
> "Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
> news:BD9D17B4.1484%darkeagle@lisco.com...
>> How is it noobiness if anyone can use them?
>>
>> On 10/21/04 1:18 AM, in article AwIdd.431824$Fg5.247959@attbi_s53, "Bob"
>> <noneofyourbusiness@go****yourself.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like you're a banshee whore!!!!
>>>
>>> 1. Ghost/Hog- doesn't really matter cause I'm good enough with either
>>> one.
>>>
>>> 2. Oh wait, there is no 2 cause the Tank and Banshee suck. Well not suck
>>> in
>>> killing ability, just in the noobness feeling that anyone good should get
>>> for using such a vehicle.
>>> "Devala Rees" <darkeagle@lisco.com> wrote in message
>>> news:BD9C0F11.1474%darkeagle@lisco.com...
>>>> What is everybody's favorite vehicle in Halo? Mine is unquestionably the
>>>> Banshee. Second place is a tie between Warthog and Ghost. Scorpion is
>>>> the
>>>> last. I like Warthog better in Campaign because with the Ghost it is
>>>> very
>>>> hard to run over enemies, but in Multiplayer I love the Ghost for its
>>>> strafing abilities, the fact that it's almost impossible to flip, and
>>>> its
>>>> great plasma weapons. What's your opinion?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>