OT: BitTorrent seeds

How do I get more seedage? I've got everything set up fine, ports are
open on router, it's downloading at a paltry 30k on an 8MB fastish
connection (get HTTP downloads at 700-800k), which I'm putting down to
the fact that I'm picking up from one seed, occasionally 2, out of an
available 588. It's been going for over an hour. What am I doing wrong?
Same thing happens with Azureus (what I'm currently using), uTorrent
and Acquisition.

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On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:34:08 +0100, Zomoniac
<the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote:

>How do I get more seedage? I've got everything set up fine, ports are
>open on router, it's downloading at a paltry 30k on an 8MB fastish
>connection (get HTTP downloads at 700-800k), which I'm putting down to
>the fact that I'm picking up from one seed, occasionally 2, out of an
>available 588. It's been going for over an hour. What am I doing wrong?
>Same thing happens with Azureus (what I'm currently using), uTorrent
>and Acquisition.

yes, but how many leechers are there? the tracker will limit/assign
connections to try and stop the data received being a garbled mess
made up of hundreds of little pieces from loads of seeds.

if you're the lone leecher, then i'd imagine something weird's going
on, but in my experience, the more leechers there are, the fewer seeds
you'll connect to.
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On 2007-05-23 15:05:25 +0100, Chris F <chris@asifimtellingyoulot.com> said:

> On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:34:08 +0100, Zomoniac
> <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How do I get more seedage? I've got everything set up fine, ports are
>> open on router, it's downloading at a paltry 30k on an 8MB fastish
>> connection (get HTTP downloads at 700-800k), which I'm putting down to
>> the fact that I'm picking up from one seed, occasionally 2, out of an
>> available 588. It's been going for over an hour. What am I doing wrong?
>> Same thing happens with Azureus (what I'm currently using), uTorrent
>> and Acquisition.
>
> yes, but how many leechers are there? the tracker will limit/assign
> connections to try and stop the data received being a garbled mess
> made up of hundreds of little pieces from loads of seeds.
>
> if you're the lone leecher, then i'd imagine something weird's going
> on, but in my experience, the more leechers there are, the fewer seeds
> you'll connect to.

Current status on Azureus:

Seeds - 1 (616)
Peers - 48 (29)

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Zo

"Zomoniac" <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5bj094F2sppslU1@mid.individual.net...
> On 2007-05-23 15:05:25 +0100, Chris F <chris@asifimtellingyoulot.com>
> said:
>
>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:34:08 +0100, Zomoniac
>> <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How do I get more seedage? I've got everything set up fine, ports are
>>> open on router, it's downloading at a paltry 30k on an 8MB fastish
>>> connection (get HTTP downloads at 700-800k), which I'm putting down to
>>> the fact that I'm picking up from one seed, occasionally 2, out of an
>>> available 588. It's been going for over an hour. What am I doing wrong?
>>> Same thing happens with Azureus (what I'm currently using), uTorrent and
>>> Acquisition.
>>
>> yes, but how many leechers are there? the tracker will limit/assign
>> connections to try and stop the data received being a garbled mess
>> made up of hundreds of little pieces from loads of seeds.
>>
>> if you're the lone leecher, then i'd imagine something weird's going
>> on, but in my experience, the more leechers there are, the fewer seeds
>> you'll connect to.
>
> Current status on Azureus:
>
> Seeds - 1 (616)
> Peers - 48 (29)
>
> --
> Zo
>
Who is your ISP? My guess is that your ISP is throttling your p2p downloads
and capping it at 30kb/s

On 2007-05-23 15:29:45 +0100, "diy-newby" <asas@asas.com> said:

>
> "Zomoniac" <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5bj094F2sppslU1@mid.individual.net...
>> On 2007-05-23 15:05:25 +0100, Chris F <chris@asifimtellingyoulot.com> said:
>>
>>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:34:08 +0100, Zomoniac
>>> <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do I get more seedage? I've got everything set up fine, ports are
>>>> open on router, it's downloading at a paltry 30k on an 8MB fastish
>>>> connection (get HTTP downloads at 700-800k), which I'm putting down to
>>>> the fact that I'm picking up from one seed, occasionally 2, out of an
>>>> available 588. It's been going for over an hour. What am I doing wrong?
>>>> Same thing happens with Azureus (what I'm currently using), uTorrent
>>>> and Acquisition.
>>>
>>> yes, but how many leechers are there? the tracker will limit/assign
>>> connections to try and stop the data received being a garbled mess
>>> made up of hundreds of little pieces from loads of seeds.
>>>
>>> if you're the lone leecher, then i'd imagine something weird's going
>>> on, but in my experience, the more leechers there are, the fewer seeds
>>> you'll connect to.
>>
>> Current status on Azureus:
>>
>> Seeds - 1 (616)
>> Peers - 48 (29)
>>
>> --
>> Zo
>>
> Who is your ISP? My guess is that your ISP is throttling your p2p
> downloads and capping it at 30kb/s

Zen, 8MB unlimited business account. It bounced up to 70k at one point,
and is now hanging around the 45-50k mark.

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Zo

"Zomoniac" <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5biu6hF2rsal0U1@mid.individual.net...
> How do I get more seedage? I've got everything set up fine, ports are open
> on router, it's downloading at a paltry 30k on an 8MB fastish connection
> (get HTTP downloads at 700-800k), which I'm putting down to the fact that
> I'm picking up from one seed, occasionally 2, out of an available 588.
> It's been going for over an hour. What am I doing wrong? Same thing
> happens with Azureus (what I'm currently using), uTorrent and Acquisition.
>
> --
> Zo
>

Could be any number of things but one thing to check is your upload speed is
not set to unlimited, I have mine set to about 15kbs upload otherwise it
kills your download speeds completely.

On 2007-05-23 15:42:07 +0100, "Diablos Rojos" <M.B.@tiscali.co.uk> said:

>
> "Zomoniac" <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5biu6hF2rsal0U1@mid.individual.net...
>> How do I get more seedage? I've got everything set up fine, ports are
>> open on router, it's downloading at a paltry 30k on an 8MB fastish
>> connection (get HTTP downloads at 700-800k), which I'm putting down to
>> the fact that I'm picking up from one seed, occasionally 2, out of an
>> available 588. It's been going for over an hour. What am I doing wrong?
>> Same thing happens with Azureus (what I'm currently using), uTorrent
>> and Acquisition.
>>
>> --
>> Zo
>>
>
> Could be any number of things but one thing to check is your upload
> speed is not set to unlimited, I have mine set to about 15kbs upload
> otherwise it kills your download speeds completely.

Well I have a green smiley man, so it's not NAT, and I've just set my
upload speed is set to 30k which has bumped my DL up to about 70-80,
but that's still 1/10th my HTTP speed. Why is it only connecting to 1
seed from 616??

--
Zo

Zomoniac wrote:
> On 2007-05-23 15:42:07 +0100, "Diablos Rojos" <M.B.@tiscali.co.uk> said:
>
>>
>> "Zomoniac" <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5biu6hF2rsal0U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> How do I get more seedage? I've got everything set up fine, ports are
>>> open on router, it's downloading at a paltry 30k on an 8MB fastish
>>> connection (get HTTP downloads at 700-800k), which I'm putting down
>>> to the fact that I'm picking up from one seed, occasionally 2, out of
>>> an available 588. It's been going for over an hour. What am I doing
>>> wrong? Same thing happens with Azureus (what I'm currently using),
>>> uTorrent and Acquisition.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zo
>>>
>>
>> Could be any number of things but one thing to check is your upload
>> speed is not set to unlimited, I have mine set to about 15kbs upload
>> otherwise it kills your download speeds completely.
>
> Well I have a green smiley man, so it's not NAT, and I've just set my
> upload speed is set to 30k which has bumped my DL up to about 70-80, but
> that's still 1/10th my HTTP speed. Why is it only connecting to 1 seed
> from 616??
>
They are shunning you because of you hair.

In article <5bj2fuF2semk9U1@mid.individual.net>, Zomoniac
<the_proper_one@hotmail.com> writes
>On 2007-05-23 15:42:07 +0100, "Diablos Rojos" <M.B.@tiscali.co.uk> said:
>
>> "Zomoniac" <the_proper_one@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:5biu6hF2rsal0U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> How do I get more seedage? I've got everything set up fine, ports
>>>are open on router, it's downloading at a paltry 30k on an 8MB
>>>fastish connection (get HTTP downloads at 700-800k), which I'm
>>>putting down to the fact that I'm picking up from one seed,
>>>occasionally 2, out of an available 588. It's been going for over an
>>>hour. What am I doing wrong? Same thing happens with Azureus (what
>>>I'm currently using), uTorrent and Acquisition.
>>> --
>>> Zo
>>>
>> Could be any number of things but one thing to check is your upload
>>speed is not set to unlimited, I have mine set to about 15kbs upload
>>otherwise it kills your download speeds completely.
>
>Well I have a green smiley man, so it's not NAT, and I've just set my
>upload speed is set to 30k which has bumped my DL up to about 70-80,
>but that's still 1/10th my HTTP speed. Why is it only connecting to 1
>seed from 616??
>

Are you allowing enough connections? In Utorrent you can adjust the
number of connections you allow.

When I'm downloading stuff, if there are a lot of seeds and peers, it
only tends to connect to a small number of seeds but a lot of peers.

You could try stopping and starting the torrent, sometimes that makes a
difference.
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Sean Black

"Sean Black" <sean@bucks-aggs.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >>> How do I get more seedage? I've got everything set up fine, ports
> >>>are open on router, it's downloading at a paltry 30k on an 8MB
> >>>fastish connection (get HTTP downloads at 700-800k), which I'm
> >>>putting down to the fact that I'm picking up from one seed,
> >>>occasionally 2, out of an available 588. It's been going for over an
> >>>hour. What am I doing wrong? Same thing happens with Azureus (what
> >>>I'm currently using), uTorrent and Acquisition.
> >>>
> >> Could be any number of things but one thing to check is your upload
> >>speed is not set to unlimited, I have mine set to about 15kbs upload
> >>otherwise it kills your download speeds completely.
> >
> >Well I have a green smiley man, so it's not NAT, and I've just set my
> >upload speed is set to 30k which has bumped my DL up to about 70-80,
> >but that's still 1/10th my HTTP speed. Why is it only connecting to 1
> >seed from 616??
>
> Are you allowing enough connections? In Utorrent you can adjust the
> number of connections you allow.
>
> When I'm downloading stuff, if there are a lot of seeds and peers, it
> only tends to connect to a small number of seeds but a lot of peers.

There's not necessarily any advantage in connecting to seeds rather than
peers, though, is there? Your client and the clients of others in the swarm
make a variety of decisions about the most efficient way to share and
retrieve the data. You can't second guess whether having connections to lots
of seeds is a 'better' thing. If it can get all of the data from a large
number of peers, and they all have better connections than the seed(s), then
technically you'd never want/need to attach to a seed at all.

> You could try stopping and starting the torrent, sometimes that makes a
> difference.

Probably counter-productive. My experience is that performance increases the
longer a torrent has been running (and it has built up a lot of connections,
and has more information about their speeds, etc).

A small disclaimer - I don't have real, detailed technical knowledge about
the finer workings of bittorrent clients, and all of the above is based on
experience and odd scraps of information (that may all be innaccurate).


Chris.

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