In it's third week on sale, UK PS3 sales plummet another 50%, Wii outselling it by nearly 9k a week.

How predictable. The PS3 clearly has lost it's steam already. With
price cuts of up to £30 off the cost of a PS3, and plenty of bunlding
already going on, the PS3 barely manages to sell 1/10th of it's launch
week total in it's third full week on sale.

Yes, the 360 is selling 11k a week - but what is there to drive people
to it? It's been on the market 18+ months, and has had no new releases
this last week. The Ps3 has lost steam less than a month after
release, and the Wi pisses on BOTH consoles from a great height,
selling out despite shipping nearly 2x as many units as both
competitors.

Just as has happened in North America, and Japan, the Ps3 launches to
great (but not astounding) stales, and then despite full availability,
it just disappears without a trace. Meanwhile, the 360 continues to
steam ahead solidly selling dispite a cheaper rival, and a supposidly
superior one.

Oh dear, even a price cut can't help the P$£!!


http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=75161

"A rise in the number of Wii units dished out to retailers has lead to
chocolate-like popularity of the console this Easter, with Nintendo
telling GamesIndustry.biz it had sold more than 25,000 last week in
the UK alone.

Leaked Chart-Track figures showed that 17,000 PlayStation 3 units were
shifted during the same period, while the figure for Xbox 360 stood at
11,000. A spokesperson for Chart-Track declined to comment on the
data.


According to a Nintendo spokesperson, "Last week was Wii's third
biggest sales week since launch. Everything we are shipping, we are
selling."

The spokesperson conceded that the figure was boosted by the
availability of more stock than usual last week, stating, "Sales in
previous weeks weren't as strong as 25k. More units are shipped some
weeks than others."

However, he added, "We are making regular shipments, and we are
consistent."

The spokesperson went on to say that the Easter holiday was a major
factor in the high figure for Wii units sold. "Easter was the catalyst
for the spike in sales," he said. "It's a traditional gifting week and
that was definitely a contributing factor, along with the fact that
there was more stock than usual."

It's still not clear when the Wii stock shortages will end - as the
spokesperson observed, "Demand for the console is clearly huge and is
exceeding supply." However, he added, "We are doing everything we can
to get as much stock out there as possible."
"

On Apr 11, 12:33 pm, "Sammus McMouldenus" <bigboobs_li...@lycos.co.uk>
wrote:
> How predictable. The PS3 clearly has lost it's steam already. With
> price cuts of up to £30 off the cost of a PS3, and plenty of bunlding
> already going on, the PS3 barely manages to sell 1/10th of it's launch
> week total in it's third full week on sale.
>
> Yes, the 360 is selling 11k a week - but what is there to drive people
> to it? It's been on the market 18+ months, and has had no new releases
> this last week. The Ps3 has lost steam less than a month after
> release, and the Wi pisses on BOTH consoles from a great height,
> selling out despite shipping nearly 2x as many units as both
> competitors.
>
> Just as has happened in North America, and Japan, the Ps3 launches to
> great (but not astounding) stales, and then despite full availability,
> it just disappears without a trace. Meanwhile, the 360 continues to
> steam ahead solidly selling dispite a cheaper rival, and a supposidly
> superior one.
>
> Oh dear, even a price cut can't help the P$£!!
>
> http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=75161
>
> "A rise in the number of Wii units dished out to retailers has lead to
> chocolate-like popularity of the console this Easter, with Nintendo
> telling GamesIndustry.biz it had sold more than 25,000 last week in
> the UK alone.
>
> Leaked Chart-Track figures showed that 17,000 PlayStation 3 units were
> shifted during the same period, while the figure for Xbox 360 stood at
> 11,000. A spokesperson for Chart-Track declined to comment on the
> data.
>
> According to a Nintendo spokesperson, "Last week was Wii's third
> biggest sales week since launch. Everything we are shipping, we are
> selling."
>
> The spokesperson conceded that the figure was boosted by the
> availability of more stock than usual last week, stating, "Sales in
> previous weeks weren't as strong as 25k. More units are shipped some
> weeks than others."
>
> However, he added, "We are making regular shipments, and we are
> consistent."
>
> The spokesperson went on to say that the Easter holiday was a major
> factor in the high figure for Wii units sold. "Easter was the catalyst
> for the spike in sales," he said. "It's a traditional gifting week and
> that was definitely a contributing factor, along with the fact that
> there was more stock than usual."
>
> It's still not clear when the Wii stock shortages will end - as the
> spokesperson observed, "Demand for the console is clearly huge and is
> exceeding supply." However, he added, "We are doing everything we can
> to get as much stock out there as possible."
> "

Ouch! Where is Bill Cable?

On Apr 11, 3:51 pm, "Robert P Holley" <holle...@delanet.com> wrote:
>
> Ouch! Where is Bill Cable?

I'm here. By my calculations, they've sold 212,000 out of the initial
shipment of 220,000. That's not bad at all. I read somewhere that
they're not expecting additional shipments until late April or May.
If that's true, they're getting to the point where nobody will be able
to find consoles on the shelves.

--
Bill Cable - Steelers Fan & Star Wars Collector
http://CreatureCantina.com <----- funny!
cable@creaturecantina.com

Bill Cable spake thusly:

> I read somewhere that
> they're not expecting additional shipments until late April or May.
> If that's true, they're getting to the point where nobody will be able
> to find consoles on the shelves.

If that's true (and I doubt it is), it means they've basically shut down
several of the factory assembly lines already, which is very troubling
indeed. There is NO shortage of PS3s. Stocks are piling up in warehouses
in every market. To create an artificial shortage now by curtailing
production is the absolute worst thing Sony could do. So few people
actually want a PS3 that to not put one in the hands of every person who
DOES want one would be absolute folly.

But by the same token, manufacuring hundreds of thousands of consoles
just to have them gather dust isn't good business either. Poor Sony.
Rock and a hard place.

-Z-

On Apr 11, 7:12 pm, "Bill Cable" <billca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm here. By my calculations, they've sold 212,000 out of the initial
> shipment of 220,000. That's not bad at all. I read somewhere that
> they're not expecting additional shipments until late April or May.
> If that's true, they're getting to the point where nobody will be able
> to find consoles on the shelves.

I swear, we are going to get to a point later this year where game
companies start cancelling PS3 titles wholesale and you will say,
"yeah, but the new Ratchet and Clank game will kick ass!". At some
point, you just gotta stop fighting a losing battle and let the
generation play itself out. It's obvious that the 360 and Wii are and
will always be the top dogs, so why keep up the charade?

On Apr 11, 11:00 pm, Zackman <zack...@SPAMISEVILearthling.net> wrote:
> Bill Cable spake thusly:
>
> > I read somewhere that
> > they're not expecting additional shipments until late April or May.
> > If that's true, they're getting to the point where nobody will be able
> > to find consoles on the shelves.
>
> If that's true (and I doubt it is), it means they've basically shut down
> several of the factory assembly lines already, which is very troubling
> indeed. There is NO shortage of PS3s. Stocks are piling up in warehouses
> in every market. To create an artificial shortage now by curtailing
> production is the absolute worst thing Sony could do. So few people
> actually want a PS3 that to not put one in the hands of every person who
> DOES want one would be absolute folly.
>
> But by the same token, manufacuring hundreds of thousands of consoles
> just to have them gather dust isn't good business either. Poor Sony.
> Rock and a hard place.
>
> -Z-

Let's see, Sega faced this situation with the Dreamcast in the final
days. Excess inventory building up and shutting down production.
This shutting down of production is likely first starting with the
dropping of the lower end PS3.

- The Rich

On Apr 12, 12:39 pm, "Rich" <rtpe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I swear, we are going to get to a point later this year where game
> companies start cancelling PS3 titles wholesale and you will say,
> "yeah, but the new Ratchet and Clank game will kick ass!". At some
> point, you just gotta stop fighting a losing battle and let the
> generation play itself out. It's obvious that the 360 and Wii are and
> will always be the top dogs, so why keep up the charade?

It's way, WAY to early to conclude what's "obvious." For all we know,
Heavenly Sword may be the greatest game ever created, get straight 10s
from every review site, and push millions of consoles. Final Fantasy
VII did that for the PS1. You're basing conclusions on the sales
figure of a console that has been out for less than half a year that
only really has 3 or 4 exclusive titles. If the PS3 is only selling
120K units in NA in November and December, then Sony has major
problems. Until that happens, we don't have enough data to make a
valid conclusion.

--
Bill Cable - Steelers Fan & Star Wars Collector
http://CreatureCantina.com <----- funny!
cable@creaturecantina.com

On Apr 12, 3:36 pm, "Bill Cable" <billca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's way, WAY to early to conclude what's "obvious." For all we know,
> Heavenly Sword may be the greatest game ever created, get straight 10s
> from every review site, and push millions of consoles. Final Fantasy
> VII did that for the PS1. You're basing conclusions on the sales

Do some research into this "Heavenly Sword" game. It's not going to
be that great. I have a lot more faith in "Lair" 's pedigree.

Neither game is enough to get me fired up about the PS3 yet, but who
knows about the gaming population in general.

I do agree with the part of your post that I snipped, where you assert
that this winter will pretty much wrap up the 'console war'. As
someone who has been gaming for 25 years, I'm just saying that it is
*clear* to me that the PS3 is going to get its butt kicked to the
cellar for this generation. It is going to take another surprise
exclusive hit like GTA 3 or SOCOM for them to do any real numbers, and
they are so far behind you're looking at several GTA 3s before they
can dream of catching the 360.

The "exclusive" part of the equation is what Sony is going to have
real problems with. It would have been millions cheaper for them to
obtain exclusives back before the system launched and the 360 started
doing huge numbers last year. The price of poker went up
substantially once the PS3 launched and nobody bought them.

On 12 Apr., 20:35, "Penguin Commandos for Gore."
<getr...@1upandup.com> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 11:00 pm, Zackman <zack...@SPAMISEVILearthling.net> wrote:
> > If that's true (and I doubt it is), it means they've basically shut down
> > several of the factory assembly lines already, which is very troubling
> > indeed. There is NO shortage of PS3s. Stocks are piling up in warehouses
> > in every market. To create an artificial shortage now by curtailing
> > production is the absolute worst thing Sony could do. So few people
> > actually want a PS3 that to not put one in the hands of every person who
> > DOES want one would be absolute folly.
>
> > But by the same token, manufacuring hundreds of thousands of consoles
> > just to have them gather dust isn't good business either. Poor Sony.
> > Rock and a hard place.
>
> > -Z-
>
> Let's see, Sega faced this situation with the Dreamcast in the final
> days. Excess inventory building up and shutting down production.
> This shutting down of production is likely first starting with the
> dropping of the lower end PS3.
>
> - The Rich

Sony shutting down PS3 assembly lines/production is wishful thinking
of anti-PS3 trolls.

Instead they prepare to ramp up the production numbers.

Foxconn has just received certification from Sony to produce
additional PS3s for the upcoming season (it was only Asustek before):
http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20070411PB202.html

Ciao
André
--
"First get your facts; then you can distort them at your leisure."
Mark Twain

On 2007-04-13, Rich <rtperna@gmail.com> wrote:
> I do agree with the part of your post that I snipped, where you assert
> that this winter will pretty much wrap up the 'console war'. As
> someone who has been gaming for 25 years, I'm just saying that it is
> *clear* to me that the PS3 is going to get its butt kicked to the
> cellar for this generation. It is going to take another surprise
> exclusive hit like GTA 3 or SOCOM for them to do any real numbers, and
> they are so far behind you're looking at several GTA 3s before they
> can dream of catching the 360.
>
> The "exclusive" part of the equation is what Sony is going to have
> real problems with. It would have been millions cheaper for them to
> obtain exclusives back before the system launched and the 360 started
> doing huge numbers last year. The price of poker went up
> substantially once the PS3 launched and nobody bought them.

In the current (previous) generation, what made me get a PS2 was not any
single great exclusive, but simply that is you wanted to play standard
turn-based JRPGs, it was flat out the best machine to get, it had such
a large number of them available. If the same situation repeats again,
I'll get a PS3 (once they are cheaper).