XBOX Live vs Free PSN

Firstly, let me get this clear: I do not mind paying for a premium
service, if what it offers is beyond the standard offerings.

What I DO expect is some sort of basic functionality that does
something simply and efficiently.

Take, for example, the game spot download service. Either you do it
for free and suffer slow servers and queueing system, or pay a small
fee to get priority downloads.

I think online gaming should be similar.

However, Microsoft disagrees with us with regards to XBOX live gold
and silver.

I don't like having to shell out $50 a year on something that I get
for free on my PC.

Even MS have admitted that they can't charge for Live on their PC
Games for Windows system - as users are not used to having to pay to
go multiplayer.

In other words, they are happy to give PC gamers what they want, but
want to screw us console owners for playing the exact same games!!

Sony offers free online play, and pays for it with content advertising
and sponsorships on the PSn - or at least plans to.

So sure, PSN is inferior to XBOX Live in nearly every way - no cross
game invites, no in game chat, no decent matchmaking algorithms, no
behaviour monitoring, that sort of thing.

However, are these additions either necessary or something people
would miss?

If I can still go Online and do a multiplayer game on the PS3, and not
pay a penny, it's not going to bother me that I can't invite people
who are playing a different game!

So if Sony can do it, (and afford to offer sotware like Home) for
free, and even MS say they'll do it for free for windows users, why
cant XBOX users get online multiplayer for free?

"Total Annihiliation" <headbog@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1175213852.716649.5090@l77g2000hsb.googlegrou ps.com...
> Firstly, let me get this clear: I do not mind paying for a premium
> service, if what it offers is beyond the standard offerings.
>
> What I DO expect is some sort of basic functionality that does
> something simply and efficiently.
>
> Take, for example, the game spot download service. Either you do it
> for free and suffer slow servers and queueing system, or pay a small
> fee to get priority downloads.
>
> I think online gaming should be similar.
>
> However, Microsoft disagrees with us with regards to XBOX live gold
> and silver.
>
> I don't like having to shell out $50 a year on something that I get
> for free on my PC.
>
> Even MS have admitted that they can't charge for Live on their PC
> Games for Windows system - as users are not used to having to pay to
> go multiplayer.
>
> In other words, they are happy to give PC gamers what they want, but
> want to screw us console owners for playing the exact same games!!
>
> Sony offers free online play, and pays for it with content advertising
> and sponsorships on the PSn - or at least plans to.
>
> So sure, PSN is inferior to XBOX Live in nearly every way - no cross
> game invites, no in game chat, no decent matchmaking algorithms, no
> behaviour monitoring, that sort of thing.
>
> However, are these additions either necessary or something people
> would miss?
>
> If I can still go Online and do a multiplayer game on the PS3, and not
> pay a penny, it's not going to bother me that I can't invite people
> who are playing a different game!
>
> So if Sony can do it, (and afford to offer sotware like Home) for
> free, and even MS say they'll do it for free for windows users, why
> cant XBOX users get online multiplayer for free?

You could always get yourself a 360 Elite. It comes with one free month of
Live Gold!

"Total Annihiliation" <headbog@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:1175213852.716649.5090@l77g2000hsb.googlegrou ps.com:

> I don't like having to shell out $50 a year on something that I get
> for free on my PC.

In many cases someone pays for those servers. I was in a clan & contributed
money every month so we would have our own server. I have no problem doing
the same with Xbox live as it basically provides servers for every game I
ever buy with no need for me to go to the trouble of running one myself.
People conveniently tend to forget that someone is paying the bill for PC
servers.

On Mar 29, 7:17 pm, "Total Annihiliation" <head...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> So sure, PSN is inferior to XBOX Live in nearly every way - no cross
> game invites, no in game chat, no decent matchmaking algorithms, no
> behaviour monitoring, that sort of thing.
>
> However, are these additions either necessary or something people
> would miss?
>

The long answer is...YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I'D MISS IT! What I'm hoping
from PSN is the same functionality as Live! for free..as they promised
a year ago. I don't mind paying for Live! because the service is damn
good. I paid top $ for my PS3 on the assumption that Sony would
provide a similar service as Live! for free. I'm I right, or totally
misguided?

"Brenden D. Chase" <brenden.chaseREMOVETHIS@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6yZOh.30426$s8.17062@newsfe21.lga...
>
> You could always get yourself a 360 Elite. It comes with one free month of
> Live Gold!
>
>
I still wouldn't use it. witness: the last year that I had the equivalent
of LIVE Gold, I spent, at most, 20 hours online. why? because most LIVErs
are a buncha douchetastic ****tards. it's nigger this or faggot that or
pwnt this and that and shrill and stupid and whiney and just f#cking
annoyong. then there are those whom you play with in co-op that suck so
much ass you might as well just play solo, which I've resigned myself to do.

On Mar 29, 11:42 pm, "khee mao" <big_bad_buddha_da...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> "Brenden D. Chase" <brenden.chaseREMOVET...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:6yZOh.30426$s8.17062@newsfe21.lga...
>
> > You could always get yourself a 360 Elite. It comes with one free month of
> > Live Gold!
>
> I still wouldn't use it. witness: the last year that I had the equivalent
> of LIVE Gold, I spent, at most, 20 hours online. why? because most LIVErs
> are a buncha douchetastic ****tards. it's nigger this or faggot that or
> pwnt this and that and shrill and stupid and whiney and just f#cking
> annoyong. then there are those whom you play with in co-op that suck so
> much ass you might as well just play solo, which I've resigned myself to do.


I can honestly say that over the last year and a half on Live! I've
never had a bad experience! And I'm on it more often than not. If I
get any of that crap, I just mute them..problem solved.

"Total Annihiliation" <headbog@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1175213852.716649.5090@l77g2000hsb.googlegrou ps.com...
> Firstly, let me get this clear: I do not mind paying for a premium
> service, if what it offers is beyond the standard offerings.
>
> What I DO expect is some sort of basic functionality that does
> something simply and efficiently.
>
> Take, for example, the game spot download service. Either you do it
> for free and suffer slow servers and queueing system, or pay a small
> fee to get priority downloads.
>
> I think online gaming should be similar.
>
> However, Microsoft disagrees with us with regards to XBOX live gold
> and silver.
>
> I don't like having to shell out $50 a year on something that I get
> for free on my PC.
>
> Even MS have admitted that they can't charge for Live on their PC
> Games for Windows system - as users are not used to having to pay to
> go multiplayer.
>
> In other words, they are happy to give PC gamers what they want, but
> want to screw us console owners for playing the exact same games!!
>
> Sony offers free online play, and pays for it with content advertising
> and sponsorships on the PSn - or at least plans to.
>
> So sure, PSN is inferior to XBOX Live in nearly every way - no cross
> game invites, no in game chat,

No in game chat?
What do you mean exactly?
I am only asking because I played Motor Storm for the past 2 nights straight
on the PS3 using a basic USB headset (I am going to get a blue tooth down
the road) and in game chat is flawless.

> no behaviour monitoring,

???

"SHaKeY STeVe" <shakey.steve@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175228579.295623.156630@y80g2000hsf.googlegr oups.com...
> On Mar 29, 7:17 pm, "Total Annihiliation" <head...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> So sure, PSN is inferior to XBOX Live in nearly every way - no cross
>> game invites, no in game chat, no decent matchmaking algorithms, no
>> behaviour monitoring, that sort of thing.
>>
>> However, are these additions either necessary or something people
>> would miss?
>>
>
> The long answer is...YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I'D MISS IT! What I'm hoping
> from PSN is the same functionality as Live! for free..as they promised
> a year ago. I don't mind paying for Live! because the service is damn
> good. I paid top $ for my PS3 on the assumption that Sony would
> provide a similar service as Live! for free. I'm I right, or totally
> misguided?

Have you tried multi channel chatting yet with your friends Steve (on the
PS3)?
I did this yesterday for the 1st time with a group of friends. It's a pretty
kewl feature. The only thing is you can't surf around sony online / web
browser or play games while you're in a chat, yet.

I think Sony is headed in the right direction with their online and if it
does in fact stay free that will be a huge feather in their cap over MS.
Unless I'm mistaken I don't believe LIVE has this feature yet.

> I still wouldn't use it. witness: the last year that I had the equivalent
> of LIVE Gold, I spent, at most, 20 hours online. why? because most LIVErs
> are a buncha douchetastic ****tards. it's nigger this or faggot that or
> pwnt this and that and shrill and stupid and whiney and just f#cking
> annoyong. then there are those whom you play with in co-op that suck so
> much ass you might as well just play solo, which I've resigned myself to do.

I tend to play with people on my friends list, you could do the same
if you had friends.

On Mar 30, 12:42 am, "khee mao" <big_bad_buddha_da...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> "Brenden D. Chase" <brenden.chaseREMOVET...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:6yZOh.30426$s8.17062@newsfe21.lga...
>
> > You could always get yourself a 360 Elite. It comes with one free month of
> > Live Gold!
>
> I still wouldn't use it. witness: the last year that I had the equivalent
> of LIVE Gold, I spent, at most, 20 hours online. why? because most LIVErs
> are a buncha douchetastic ****tards. it's nigger this or faggot that or
> pwnt this and that and shrill and stupid and whiney and just f#cking
> annoyong.

kind of like you, right here on usenet...