For Sony, that performance "is simply abysmal" -- "PS3 is sucking wind right now"

PlayStation 3 is down 2-to-1 to Nintendo's Wii

By Mike Snider, USA TODAY
Sony's new PlayStation 3 video game system has gone from top dog to
underdog in record time.

Despite the buildup and hype around its arrival in November, the PS3
has been outsold so far - at a rate of almost 2-to-1 - by the Nintendo
Wii.

In February, the Wii was the top-selling console video game system
with an estimated 335,000 sold, outpacing the Microsoft Xbox 360
(228,000) and the PS3 (127,000), according to The NPD Group.

The battle for the living room: Sony, Microsoft square off with online
offerings

For Sony, that performance "is simply abysmal," says Newsweek's N'Gai
Croal. "The PS3 is sucking wind right now. .... Price is a factor. Some
of the negative buzz is a factor. Some of the FUD (fear, uncertainty
and doubt) is a factor. And the lack of a large number of triple-A
software titles is a factor."

Nintendo's $250 Wii, released the same week as the PS3 ($500-$600),
has sold about 1.9 million so far, compared with 1.1 million PS3s.

Initial online bidding for the PS3 soared to $2,000-plus, but four
months later, customers can find ample supplies in stores while Wiis
remain tough to come by. "It's a strange sight. Nobody would have
predicted that," says Dan Hsu, editor in chief of Electronic Gaming
Monthly magazine.

Sony counters that sales so far of the PS3, which launches in Europe
this week, rival early sales of the Xbox 360 and PS2.

"I chuckle when you say we are in trouble, because when you couldn't
find them on shelves, some said we were in trouble," says Sony
Computer Entertainment's Dave Karraker. "So we're damned if we do and
damned if we don't."

The PS3's early stumbles - fewer than expected shipments, extensive
updates needed for backward compatibility - caused some analysts to
reconsider how the market might play out.

Billy Pidgeon of IDC, in Framingham, Mass., expects the Wii to sell
more than 16 million systems worldwide this year, compared with 10
million each for the PS3 and 360. "The PS3 is not breaking out of last
place in market share anytime soon

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/...ps3-woes_N.htm

AirRaid Mach 2.5 wrote:

> Despite the buildup and hype around its arrival in November, the PS3
> has been outsold so far - at a rate of almost 2-to-1 - by the Nintendo
> Wii.

"Cheaper Thing Outsells More Expensive Thing Shock!". Well, duh.

"AirRaid Mach 2.5" <AirRaidJet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174939963.456079.160210@e65g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Billy Pidgeon of IDC, in Framingham, Mass., expects the Wii to sell
> more than 16 million systems worldwide this year, compared with 10
> million each for the PS3 and 360. "The PS3 is not breaking out of last
> place in market share anytime soon

Is it just me or is 10 million units @ $600 pretty damn good? That's $6
billion vs $4 billion for the 16 million Wii units sold at $250. I'd say
that Sony will make out pretty well if they reach the 10 million units.

As it stands now if Sony sold 1.1 million units at an estimated cost of $600
each (I know there's the $500 unit, but let's make math easy), it's $660
million. The 1.9 million Wii's sold comes out to $475 million so Sony is
already ahead of Nintendo in the bottom line numbers.

In article <zUZNh.2038$YL5.1488@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> ,
"nathantw" <nathantw1@removethis-sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Is it just me or is 10 million units @ $600 pretty damn good? That's $6
> billion vs $4 billion for the 16 million Wii units sold at $250. I'd say
> that Sony will make out pretty well if they reach the 10 million units.
>
> As it stands now if Sony sold 1.1 million units at an estimated cost of $600
> each (I know there's the $500 unit, but let's make math easy), it's $660
> million. The 1.9 million Wii's sold comes out to $475 million so Sony is
> already ahead of Nintendo in the bottom line numbers.

That analysis would be spot-on...if the PS3 and the Wii both cost $0 to
manufacture. :-)

Unfortunately for Sony's bottom line, the PS3 costs quite a bit to make.
Here's a breakdown:

<http://www.isuppli.com/news/default.asp?id=6919>

Nintendo has stated that the Wii is sold at a profit.

So, when you look at the bottom line numbers, Nintendo is in the black
by a decent amount, and Sony is in the red by a large amount.

--
--Tim Smith

You keep pushing that anti-sony message... You just keep on keeping on....
nevermind the successful numbers coming out of the UK... you just put that
out of your mind... and keep on posting the negativity... eventually we'll
convert them all!!!



"AirRaid Mach 2.5" <AirRaidJet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174939963.456079.160210@e65g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com...
> PlayStation 3 is down 2-to-1 to Nintendo's Wii
>
> By Mike Snider, USA TODAY
> Sony's new PlayStation 3 video game system has gone from top dog to
> underdog in record time.
>
> Despite the buildup and hype around its arrival in November, the PS3
> has been outsold so far - at a rate of almost 2-to-1 - by the Nintendo
> Wii.
>
> In February, the Wii was the top-selling console video game system
> with an estimated 335,000 sold, outpacing the Microsoft Xbox 360
> (228,000) and the PS3 (127,000), according to The NPD Group.
>
> The battle for the living room: Sony, Microsoft square off with online
> offerings
>
> For Sony, that performance "is simply abysmal," says Newsweek's N'Gai
> Croal. "The PS3 is sucking wind right now. .... Price is a factor. Some
> of the negative buzz is a factor. Some of the FUD (fear, uncertainty
> and doubt) is a factor. And the lack of a large number of triple-A
> software titles is a factor."
>
> Nintendo's $250 Wii, released the same week as the PS3 ($500-$600),
> has sold about 1.9 million so far, compared with 1.1 million PS3s.
>
> Initial online bidding for the PS3 soared to $2,000-plus, but four
> months later, customers can find ample supplies in stores while Wiis
> remain tough to come by. "It's a strange sight. Nobody would have
> predicted that," says Dan Hsu, editor in chief of Electronic Gaming
> Monthly magazine.
>
> Sony counters that sales so far of the PS3, which launches in Europe
> this week, rival early sales of the Xbox 360 and PS2.
>
> "I chuckle when you say we are in trouble, because when you couldn't
> find them on shelves, some said we were in trouble," says Sony
> Computer Entertainment's Dave Karraker. "So we're damned if we do and
> damned if we don't."
>
> The PS3's early stumbles - fewer than expected shipments, extensive
> updates needed for backward compatibility - caused some analysts to
> reconsider how the market might play out.
>
> Billy Pidgeon of IDC, in Framingham, Mass., expects the Wii to sell
> more than 16 million systems worldwide this year, compared with 10
> million each for the PS3 and 360. "The PS3 is not breaking out of last
> place in market share anytime soon
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/...ps3-woes_N.htm
>

Calum wrote:
> AirRaid Mach 2.5 wrote:
>
>> Despite the buildup and hype around its arrival in November, the PS3
>> has been outsold so far - at a rate of almost 2-to-1 - by the Nintendo
>> Wii.
>
>
> "Cheaper Thing Outsells More Expensive Thing Shock!". Well, duh.

Except for the fact that it never did the Gamecube any good. And the
ipod has always been more espensive than it's competitors. It's more
complicated than that.

"nathantw" <nathantw1@removethis-sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:zUZNh.2038$YL5.1488@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
>
> "AirRaid Mach 2.5" <AirRaidJet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1174939963.456079.160210@e65g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Billy Pidgeon of IDC, in Framingham, Mass., expects the Wii to sell
>> more than 16 million systems worldwide this year, compared with 10
>> million each for the PS3 and 360. "The PS3 is not breaking out of last
>> place in market share anytime soon
>
> Is it just me or is 10 million units @ $600 pretty damn good? That's $6
> billion vs $4 billion for the 16 million Wii units sold at $250. I'd say
> that Sony will make out pretty well if they reach the 10 million units.
>
> As it stands now if Sony sold 1.1 million units at an estimated cost of
> $600 each (I know there's the $500 unit, but let's make math easy), it's
> $660 million. The 1.9 million Wii's sold comes out to $475 million so Sony
> is already ahead of Nintendo in the bottom line numbers.

Jeff? Jeff Bezos? Is that you, old man? I say, you haven't changed a bit!

On Mar 26, 5:51 pm, "nathantw" <nathan...@removethis-sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> "AirRaid Mach 2.5" <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1174939963.456079.160210@e65g2000hsc.g ooglegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Billy Pidgeon of IDC, in Framingham, Mass., expects the Wii to sell
> > more than 16 million systems worldwide this year, compared with 10
> > million each for the PS3 and 360. "The PS3 is not breaking out of last
> > place in market share anytime soon
>
> Is it just me or is 10 million units @ $600 pretty damn good? That's $6
> billion vs $4 billion for the 16 million Wii units sold at $250. I'd say
> that Sony will make out pretty well if they reach the 10 million units.
>
> As it stands now if Sony sold 1.1 million units at an estimated cost of $600
> each (I know there's the $500 unit, but let's make math easy), it's $660
> million. The 1.9 million Wii's sold comes out to $475 million so Sony is
> already ahead of Nintendo in the bottom line numbers.

Unfortunately, Sony is losing $270 on each PS3 they sell (at least in
North America).

blue wrote:
> Calum wrote:
>> AirRaid Mach 2.5 wrote:
>>
>>> Despite the buildup and hype around its arrival in November, the PS3
>>> has been outsold so far - at a rate of almost 2-to-1 - by the Nintendo
>>> Wii.
>>
>>
>> "Cheaper Thing Outsells More Expensive Thing Shock!". Well, duh.
>
> Except for the fact that it never did the Gamecube any good. And the
> ipod has always been more espensive than it's competitors. It's more
> complicated than that.

It's not complicated at all. The real story (as the Gamecube was, and
the iPod continues to be) is when things *don't* happen that way,
because that's when something else is going on that's worth talking about.

On Mar 27, 12:12 am, "Brenden D. Chase"
<brenden.chaseREMOVET...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You keep pushing that anti-sony message... You just keep on keeping on....
> nevermind the successful numbers coming out of the UK... you just put that
> out of your mind... and keep on posting the negativity... eventually we'll
> convert them all!!!
>
>

the UK isn't going to save PS3. I'm not surprised it's doing well
there, there's alot of pent-up demand because of the delay.

since PS3 is doing terribly in its home country, I think it's safe to
say

"Sony, we have a problem"