GT3 - still the real deal

Wow...I have had some awesome races recently, reminding me what an incredible
game this is.

Last night I had a fierce 10 lap duel in the Pro league, at Deep Forest Gateau
racetrack. I burn around in a racing Toyota Supra with some extra turbo and
things - superb handling.

I came in 3rd, the winner was 7 seconds down the road...what a race though.

All I really need from GT4 is to be penalised for hitting other cars, ie slowed
down or damaged. Imagine the racing as it currently is, but with the added
tension and white-knuckle ride of desperately avoiding other cars?

GT3? F**king cool!

Tom, High Wycombe, UK.

"Brenden D. Chase" wrote

> Yep, and to think it was a launch title.

Gran Turismo 3 was not a launch title.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/data/27212.html

Gran Turismo 3 A-spec - 4/28/2001 - JP
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec - 7/11/2001 - NA
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec - 7/20/2001 - EU
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec (Mega Hits!) - 12/13/2001 - JP
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec (Platinum) - 3/1/2002 - EU

If I recall correctly, the North American PlayStation 2 was in October 2000.
I forget when the PS2 was released in Japan. Looking at the release dates
for Ridge Race V, I suspect the Japanese launch date was in March 2000.

GT series needs a lot of changing IMO, they need to change it from the real
driving simulator to the real RACING simulator (or make a seperate series- i
think i'd be happier if they do that. perhaps even split the game into
traditional GT mode for tuning cars and Race mode for proper racing, doing
away with the crappy arcade mode). It definitely needs more cars on track
(i guess ten would be enough for a decent race, that would be enough for 2
or 3 packs), racing rules with flags, accounting for fuel strategy if you
have enduros, marbles off the racing line and dirt that gets dragged onto
the track actually effecting grip, damage and car physics more alike to
codemasters pro race driver, where you can actually roll it and lose wheels.
maybe even pit boards instead of flashing times on the HUD! they wouldnt
have the pansy "some of the manufacturers dont agree with car damage excuse"
if all the cars were race built in any case!! Anyway, I'm starting to tire
of the GT series because they seem to be just adding more cars and tracks
and not innovating at all, anyway, i wish i was in product development at
Polyphony, not only would i kick some asses along but I wanna get a chane to
actually test drive a R34 Gtr Nur in real life :-)

anything to add to the wishlist for the real racing simulator?

"FattDex" <fattdex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> GT series needs a lot of changing IMO, they need to change it from the
real
> driving simulator to the real RACING simulator (or make a seperate series-
i
> think i'd be happier if they do that. perhaps even split the game into
> traditional GT mode for tuning cars and Race mode for proper racing, doing
> away with the crappy arcade mode). It definitely needs more cars on track
> (i guess ten would be enough for a decent race, that would be enough for 2
> or 3 packs), racing rules with flags, accounting for fuel strategy if you
> have enduros, marbles off the racing line and dirt that gets dragged onto
> the track actually effecting grip, damage and car physics more alike to
> codemasters pro race driver, where you can actually roll it and lose
wheels.
> maybe even pit boards instead of flashing times on the HUD! they wouldnt
> have the pansy "some of the manufacturers dont agree with car damage
excuse"
> if all the cars were race built in any case!! Anyway, I'm starting to
tire
> of the GT series because they seem to be just adding more cars and tracks
> and not innovating at all, anyway, i wish i was in product development at
> Polyphony, not only would i kick some asses along but I wanna get a chane
to
> actually test drive a R34 Gtr Nur in real life :-)
>
> anything to add to the wishlist for the real racing simulator?

Making a GT game actually react to whether one tire was in the dirt and
the rest were still on asphalt would pretty much completely change the
gameplay for the better. All three GTs have been almost nothing but more
tracks and cars, or in the case of GT3, less tracks and cars, the same exact
AI and gameplay of GT2, and prettier graphics.
They'll need to at least provide the option for accurate physics and
slide mechanics, like F355 has, if they want to continue calling the series
a "simulator" of anything. They'll need to have AI that reacts to your car
and eachother, again like F355 has. As for more cars on track, I think
they've already stated that GT4 will only have 6, down from the other
version's 8. Basically, the only thing the series has to offer to date is
more cars to drive, and more hours to spend driving them, the actual race
gameplay mechanics were out of date for simulations years ago.

In article <20030701174327.20722.00001126@mb-m22.aol.com>, tstungo@aol.com
(Tstungo) wrote:

>Wow...I have had some awesome races recently, reminding me what an incredible
>game this is.
>
>Last night I had a fierce 10 lap duel in the Pro league, at Deep Forest Gateau
>racetrack. I burn around in a racing Toyota Supra with some extra turbo and
>things - superb handling.
>
>I came in 3rd, the winner was 7 seconds down the road...what a race though.
>
>All I really need from GT4 is to be penalised for hitting other cars, ie slowed
>down or damaged. Imagine the racing as it currently is, but with the added
>tension and white-knuckle ride of desperately avoiding other cars?
>
>GT3? F**king cool!
>
>Tom, High Wycombe, UK.

Damnit why did I sell my copy?!!

<=[BC]=>

On 01 Jul 2003 21:43:27 GMT, tstungo@aol.com (Tstungo) wrote:

>All I really need from GT4 is to be penalised for hitting other cars, ie slowed
>down or damaged. Imagine the racing as it currently is, but with the added
>tension and white-knuckle ride of desperately avoiding other cars?

From e3 I get the impression they're focusing on multiplayer, not
single-player improvements like this. Damn shame.

yay. they're not even going to launch ps2 online in australia by the looks
of things.

"Joe62" <jmcginnNOSPAM@radicalREALLYNOSPAM.ca> wrote in message
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> On 01 Jul 2003 21:43:27 GMT, tstungo@aol.com (Tstungo) wrote:
>
> >All I really need from GT4 is to be penalised for hitting other cars, ie
slowed
> >down or damaged. Imagine the racing as it currently is, but with the
added
> >tension and white-knuckle ride of desperately avoiding other cars?
>
> From e3 I get the impression they're focusing on multiplayer, not
> single-player improvements like this. Damn shame.

"FattDex" <fattdex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> aye.
> i have a real skyline anyway, so i think i'll just go for a drive instead
of
> playing gt3 in the future :-P

That's what I do, though not with a skyline, it's too bad nobody's put
an 85' dual carb Prelude in one of these games. The Preludes in the GT
games handle like Civics anyway, so it's probably for the best.

"Joe62" <jmcginnNOSPAM@radicalREALLYNOSPAM.ca> wrote in message
news:6qg6gv06dmm9at5imamol7bsicqr2mmrql@4ax.com...
> On 01 Jul 2003 21:43:27 GMT, tstungo@aol.com (Tstungo) wrote:
>
> >All I really need from GT4 is to be penalised for hitting other cars, ie
slowed
> >down or damaged. Imagine the racing as it currently is, but with the
added
> >tension and white-knuckle ride of desperately avoiding other cars?
>
> From e3 I get the impression they're focusing on multiplayer, not
> single-player improvements like this. Damn shame.

Major shame if that's the case. If it's one of those, "connect and download
the latest car" type things that happens on PC occasionally I'll be most
upset.

AndyC (the other one).

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:46:16 +0100, "AndyC" <abuse@your-email.com>
wrote:

>Major shame if that's the case. If it's one of those, "connect and download
>the latest car" type things that happens on PC occasionally I'll be most
>upset.

No, it's real online racing, but I'm still upset. GT has always been
the best console pure 1-player racng game, still nothing else as good
(or even close in my opinion). So I want it to continue being that
great driving game. I couldn't care less about online play.