New Courses in Tiger Woods 2004

in article 20030622032616.11559.00000770@mb-m13.aol.com, DevilThorn at
devilthorn@aol.com wrote on 6/22/03 3:26 AM:

> animus wrote:
>
>>> That 3-click method is pathetic compared to using the analog sticks. I
>>> used to
>>> get some enjoyment out of games like Hot Shots Golf, and while I'm not
>>> denying they are good games, I just cannot sit down and play them anymore
>>> due to the crappy swing mechanics.
>
>> the analog controls are actually MUCH easier to use than the clicky method
>> I think...
>
> I wholeheartedly agree. it's much more realistic and well done
>


Definitely true, anyone that disagrees really has not made the effort to
learn the ins-and-outs of the swing system. Going to the sticks for the
swing is one of the best moves ever in a game (as far as controls go.)

"Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<xq3Ka.88216$_w.4862413@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
> "massivegrooves" <massivegrooves@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:BB1E2527.45766%massivegrooves@cox.net...
> > Definitely true, anyone that disagrees really has not made the effort to
> > learn the ins-and-outs of the swing system. Going to the sticks for the
> > swing is one of the best moves ever in a game (as far as controls go.)
>
> The tri-click method is supa-gay. The swing method is not even hard to
> adjust to. It's natural, fun, and one of the great innovations in sports
> games in a long time. I'm also pleased with how EA innovated the throwing
> method in MVP Baseball.
>
> Skye

I agree however the option to revert to the old system should be there as well IMO.

RickB wrote:
> "Phil" <ps2isnumber1@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:a9c2e129.0306250211.29595520@posting.google.c om...
>
>>"Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:<xq3Ka.88216$_w.4862413@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
>
>>>"massivegrooves" <massivegrooves@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:BB1E2527.45766%massivegrooves@cox.net...
>>>
>>>>Definitely true, anyone that disagrees really has not made the effort
>
> to
>
>>>>learn the ins-and-outs of the swing system. Going to the sticks for
>
> the
>
>>>>swing is one of the best moves ever in a game (as far as controls go.)
>>>
>>>The tri-click method is supa-gay. The swing method is not even hard to
>>>adjust to. It's natural, fun, and one of the great innovations in sports
>>>games in a long time. I'm also pleased with how EA innovated the
>
> throwing
>
>>>method in MVP Baseball.
>>>
>>>Skye
>>
>>I agree however the option to revert to the old system should be there as
>
> well IMO.
>
> The option to make the game boring and uncomfortable should never be
> implemented into a game.

Stupid advice. Believe it or not, there are people the love the 3 click
system and will not buy a golf game unless it has it. By allowing both
systems, they are expanding their user base.

People seem to forget that the companies who make these games are in it
for the money.

Later,
Richard

Why when I can buy a 49 dollar game like TW2004, and play against all the
guys that used to shoot me in the head in SOCOM? Revenge will be mine.


Skye

"brun132001" <brun132001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:nsbifvsthuomlcc5i8fftcgo9cv9ib4rj3@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:31:09 GMT, "Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> >The tri-click method is supa-gay. The swing method is not even hard to
> >adjust to. It's natural, fun, and one of the great innovations in sports
> >games in a long time. I'm also pleased with how EA innovated the throwing
> >method in MVP Baseball.
> >
> >Skye
>
> Why don't you just buy one of those golf simulators if you're so crazy
> about realistic golf?
>
>

"Richard Edwards" <riche@pobox.com> wrote in message
newsigKa.143309$BA.47437171@twister.columbus.rr. com...
> > The option to make the game boring and uncomfortable should never be
> > implemented into a game.
>
> Stupid advice. Believe it or not, there are people the love the 3 click
> system and will not buy a golf game unless it has it. By allowing both
> systems, they are expanding their user base.

That would be like authors tossing in lots of tiny words in their novels for
the feeble-minded to appreciate. So a few less morons buy TW2004, who cares.
Let them go play Golf For Retards...errr Hot Shots Golf.

Skye

in article k9gKa.16234$3d.10877@sccrnsc02, RickB at rberry883@attbi.com
wrote on 6/25/03 8:00 AM:

>
> "Phil" <ps2isnumber1@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:a9c2e129.0306250211.29595520@posting.google.c om...
>> "Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:<xq3Ka.88216$_w.4862413@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
>>> "massivegrooves" <massivegrooves@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:BB1E2527.45766%massivegrooves@cox.net...
>>>> Definitely true, anyone that disagrees really has not made the effort
> to
>>>> learn the ins-and-outs of the swing system. Going to the sticks for
> the
>>>> swing is one of the best moves ever in a game (as far as controls go.)
>>>
>>> The tri-click method is supa-gay. The swing method is not even hard to
>>> adjust to. It's natural, fun, and one of the great innovations in sports
>>> games in a long time. I'm also pleased with how EA innovated the
> throwing
>>> method in MVP Baseball.
>>>
>>> Skye
>>
>> I agree however the option to revert to the old system should be there as
> well IMO.
>
> The option to make the game boring and uncomfortable should never be
> implemented into a game. The Tiger Woods golf franchise (as far as
> videogames is concerned) has made golf on a console fun again. Gone are the
> days where you repeatedly 'click-click-click' to progress. The true swing
> feature makes you get into the game more and makes it feel like you've
> actually accomplished something when you hit the ball a few feet from the
> pin from 130 yards out with a 7 iron. The 3-click system was simple and that
> is why it worked, just select the distance you want to hit (club) and
> 'click-click-click', however, with the TW style of swing you need select the
> club type to use to determine type of shot and distance. From this point is
> where TW just shines, you need to adjust your swing (not clicks) based on
> wind, distance, slice/hook, and front spin/back spin. All these factors are
> adjusted on the fly with TW which makes it all the more fun. I believe the
> Hot Shots Golf series will suffer greatly because of the choice EA made to
> go with the new swing system. So long to all the kiddie cartoony golf
> characters who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn on a real course. IMHO.
>
> RickB


I agree...

in article pigKa.143309$BA.47437171@twister.columbus.rr.com, Richard Edwards
at riche@pobox.com wrote on 6/25/03 8:09 AM:

> RickB wrote:
>> "Phil" <ps2isnumber1@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:a9c2e129.0306250211.29595520@posting.google.c om...
>>
>>> "Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:<xq3Ka.88216$_w.4862413@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
>>
>>>> "massivegrooves" <massivegrooves@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:BB1E2527.45766%massivegrooves@cox.net...
>>>>
>>>>> Definitely true, anyone that disagrees really has not made the effort
>>
>> to
>>
>>>>> learn the ins-and-outs of the swing system. Going to the sticks for
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> swing is one of the best moves ever in a game (as far as controls go.)
>>>>
>>>> The tri-click method is supa-gay. The swing method is not even hard to
>>>> adjust to. It's natural, fun, and one of the great innovations in sports
>>>> games in a long time. I'm also pleased with how EA innovated the
>>
>> throwing
>>
>>>> method in MVP Baseball.
>>>>
>>>> Skye
>>>
>>> I agree however the option to revert to the old system should be there as
>>
>> well IMO.
>>
>> The option to make the game boring and uncomfortable should never be
>> implemented into a game.
>
> Stupid advice. Believe it or not, there are people the love the 3 click
> system and will not buy a golf game unless it has it. By allowing both
> systems, they are expanding their user base.


Those that "love" the antiquated 3 click method are those that have not
taken the time to fully grasp the concept of using the sticks to swing and
that the players actual swing is your swing meter (power.) Using the old 3
click method is lame, and much less enjoyable. I know several people who
used to really like the old 3 click swing but once they grasped the concept
of the sticks they never looked back. With the sticks you can do much more
with your shots, and with more control...planned hooks and slices are easy
to do and blast (cutting the corner off of a hole) where with the old method
it is much more tedious and less predictable as far as your final outcome.


> People seem to forget that the companies who make these games are in it
> for the money.
>
> Later,
> Richard
>

in article fMgKa.99500$nr.6350406@twister.southeast.rr.com, Skye at
carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com wrote on 6/25/03 8:41 AM:

> Why when I can buy a 49 dollar game like TW2004, and play against all the
> guys that used to shoot me in the head in SOCOM? Revenge will be mine.


Keep thinking that ;0)



> "brun132001" <brun132001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:nsbifvsthuomlcc5i8fftcgo9cv9ib4rj3@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:31:09 GMT, "Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The tri-click method is supa-gay. The swing method is not even hard to
>>> adjust to. It's natural, fun, and one of the great innovations in sports
>>> games in a long time. I'm also pleased with how EA innovated the throwing
>>> method in MVP Baseball.
>>>
>>> Skye
>>
>> Why don't you just buy one of those golf simulators if you're so crazy
>> about realistic golf?
>>
>>
>
>