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alohacyberian wrote:

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> > alohacyberian wrote:
> > > "Bob" <chil-out@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3EF7351E.D3D61A8C@ix.netcom.com...
> > > > alohacyberian wrote:
> > > > > "Bob" <chil-out@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3EF514BD.7014F0DC@ix.netcom.com...
> > > > > > alohacyberian wrote:
> > > > > > > about Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/
> > > > > > > "Bob" <chil-out@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:3EF464EB.50679660@ix.netcom.com...
> > > > > > > > alohacyberian wrote:
> > > > > > > > > "Bob" <chil-out@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:3EF3B340.521127A6@ix.netcom.com...
> > > > > > > > > > Relish wrote:
>
> > > > "political correctness" has remained in the same state it was when a
> book
> > > from
> > > > Indiana ( hotbed of national politics ) was printed?
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > I don't assume any such things, you presume I assume them and then
> > > erroneously attribute them to me. As for your political longevity, they
> say
> > > "there's no fool like an old fool". And there are those of us who
> realize
> > > that time in grad isn't necessarily the same as experience. Quick minds
> can
> > > learn in a few years what fools never learn. "Pity the heart that is
> slow to
> > > learn, what the quick mind sees at every turn." The old, "I'm older,
> > > therefore wiser" bromide doesn't cut it with people who can think. KM
> >
> > But the "Oler people are always befuddled" is true, right"
> > The smartest people are the 22 year old college grads who have not yet been
> > warped by life experience.
> >
> > Yea, I heard that before, too.
> > Bob
> >
>
> No, I didn't say either of those things and wouldn't subscribe to those
> views. Once again, you pull something out of thin air and attribute it to me
> and then argue against something you invented and I never posted. That's
> dishonest. It's too bad you live on slogans.

What slogans? I used none. You have dismissed my statements based on my age.
If that is not prejudice, what the hell do you call it?
Bob

Bob wrote:

>
> What slogans? I used none. You have dismissed my statements based on my age.
> If that is not prejudice, what the hell do you call it?
> Bob

It's no more predjudice than you claiming your age as some sort of special claim on
insight.

You bring age into these discussions as much as anyone else.

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"RogerM" <rodger.mckay@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Bob wrote:
> > What slogans? I used none. You have dismissed my statements based on my
age.
> > If that is not prejudice, what the hell do you call it?
> > Bob
>
> It's no more predjudice than you claiming your age as some sort of special
claim on
> insight.
>
> You bring age into these discussions as much as anyone else.
>

And then if you fall all over yourself because of his age, you're wonderful
and insightful, and if you don't fall for the ploy, you're prejudiced? I
thouht so. KM
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"Bob" <chil-out@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> RogerM wrote:
> > Bob wrote:
> >
> > You bring age into these discussions as much as anyone else.
>
> Sure I do. Why not?
> Bob
>

Because the age of the messenger isn't relevant to anything. It's the
contents of the message that matters. KM
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"Bob" <chil-out@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> RogerM wrote:
> > Bob wrote:
> > > If that is not prejudice, what the hell do you call it?
> > > Bob
> >
> > It's no more predjudice than you claiming your age as some sort of
special claim on
> > insight.
>
> Not insight. Experience. Experience is a great teacher.
> It beats the hell out of unproved theories.
>
> If the older generation does not share its experiences with the younger
generation,
> then the younger generation is bound to repeat the mistakes of the older
generation.
> That's why people study history.
>

Yes, by all means the older generations should share their views with the
younger generations, but, their contentions must be valid and hold water. We
all know that there are plenty of old fools who have misinterpreted their
experiences and many more who haven't kept up with the ever-changing times.
Good grief, Noam Chomsky is old and he's still spouting the same tired
bromides somebody else wretched-up over 70 years ago! If age were a viable
criteria for evaluation, then the words of all old people would be wise and
accurate. We all know that isn't the case. So, why would your words be any
better than any other old fool? Well, they might be, but, that remains to be
seen until you stick to messages and ignore the messengers. V.I. Lenin said
some very credible things, but, I'd hardly use him as a barometer for
successful political or economic systems. KM
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alohacyberian wrote:

> "Bob" <chil-out@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:3EF8A53E.2617B8B8@ix.netcom.com...
> > RogerM wrote:
> > > Bob wrote:
> > >
> > > You bring age into these discussions as much as anyone else.
> >
> > Sure I do. Why not?
> > Bob
> >
>
> Because the age of the messenger isn't relevant to anything. It's the
> contents of the message that matters. KM

What are the specific contents you are objection to?

All I have gotten from you is generalizations, nothing specific.
Bob

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<Jp4Ka.19484$3o3.1556730@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:

> If age were a viable
> criteria for evaluation, then the words of all old people would be wise and
> accurate. We all know that isn't the case.

I doubt that you speak for all the "younger" generation when you say "We
all know that isn't the case.


So, why would your words be any
> better than any other old fool? Well, they might be, but, that remains to be
> seen until you stick to messages and ignore the messengers.

Why would your words be better than any other young fool?? I know that
your attitude and thinking is not along the same thoughts of the many I
have dealt with and I don"t consider them young fools like you.

--
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"Bob" <chil-out@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> alohacyberian wrote:
> > "Bob" <chil-out@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3EF8A53E.2617B8B8@ix.netcom.com...
> > > RogerM wrote:
> > > > Bob wrote:
> >
> > Yes, by all means the older generations should share their views with the
> > younger generations, but, their contentions must be valid and hold water.
>
> But, without experience, who are you to make that judgment?
>

Judgement comes from the use of reason and logic, not necessarily experience.
I have no way of guaging or evaluating your experiences, so I'll stick to
your words that are germane to the discussion. KM
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"Nancy Kay" <nonacks37310@noinsightbb.com> wrote in message
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> In article
> <Jp4Ka.19484$3o3.1556730@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@att.net> wrote:
>
> > If age were a viable
> > criteria for evaluation, then the words of all old people would be wise
and
> > accurate. We all know that isn't the case.
>
> I doubt that you speak for all the "younger" generation when you say "We
> all know that isn't the case.
>
Anyone who doesn't know that all old people aren't wise is extremely stupid.
>
> So, why would your words be any
> > better than any other old fool? Well, they might be, but, that remains
to be
> > seen until you stick to messages and ignore the messengers.
>
> Why would your words be better than any other young fool?? I know that
> your attitude and thinking is not along the same thoughts of the many I
> have dealt with and I don"t consider them young fools like you.
> --
> Nancy Kay
>
I wasn't speaking for the "younger generation", I was speaking for thinking
people. You're presuming I'm young and haven't one iota of factual
information to support your contention. If you want to believe that all old
people are wise, be my guest, but, it only illustrates that you're probably
old and you definately aren't wise. Again, if you want to think I'm a young
fool, be my guest. But, you concluded out of thin air that I'm young and a
fool, attributed your creation to me and then argued against a pure
fabrication of your own invention. I'm supposed to respect that kind of lack
of logic? I don't think so. KM
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alohacyberian wrote:

> "Bob" <chil-out@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> > alohacyberian wrote:
> > > "Bob" <chil-out@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3EF8A53E.2617B8B8@ix.netcom.com...
> > > > RogerM wrote:
> > > > > Bob wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You bring age into these discussions as much as anyone else.
> > > >
> > > > Sure I do. Why not?
> > > > Bob
> > >
> > > Because the age of the messenger isn't relevant to anything. It's the
> > > contents of the message that matters. KM
> >
> > What are the specific contents you are objection to?
> >
> > All I have gotten from you is generalizations, nothing specific.
> > Bob
> >
>
> Then why are you responding? KM

Trying to gain information. Why are you withholding information?
(Yes, that is a bit extreme, admittedly. But you attacked me, I did not
attack you. )
Bob

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